Sorry, I'm one year late.
Badge description: You represented Fedora at Linux Day 2018
Help the badges team understand what this idea is all about. If this badge is awarded for certain kinds of activities:
1) What are those activities? Linux Day is an yearly event in Italy since 2000 about free software and GNU/Linux, celebrated in some Italian cities
2) Who is doing them (are they packagers? translators? newcomers? veterans? users? sponsors?) Ambassadors or even community members (we could call them advocates) that volunteer to represent Fedora in their city where such event is held. By way of a talk, a workshop or a booth.
3) Why are they doing them (is this a means to a different end?) Just to share experiences, or to publicize Fedora, onboard new users and potentially new contributors.
4) When do they do them (every day? once a year?) In 2018. In reality the event is held annually, so, potentially, a similar badge could be created every year. This is the 2018 report: https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/linux-day-2018-italy/
5) How do they do them (by talking in IRC? by running commands in the console? by using a web interface?) Holding a talk, a seminar, a workshop or a booth at one of the many events around Italy.
Lastly, do you have any ideas for artwork concepts? Yes
This is my idea. Very similar to other event badges, but with the Italian Linux Day official logo. This is the 2018 event web site: https://www.linuxday.it/2018/
<img alt="events-ld-2018-speaker.svg" src="/fedora-badges/issue/raw/files/a8a6131a15a1ffd6927f44b26a92debeb7068342accea58538817cc32ff0bce8-events-ld-2018-speaker.svg" />
<img alt="events-ld-2018-speaker.png" src="/fedora-badges/issue/raw/files/80dfc457f0b3fda66e047c3b1aae190c243cb22ea3bc53744211624d9b36b3b0-events-ld-2018-speaker.png" />
@alciregi Hi! Thanks for opening this ticket :) As part of Fedora Badge policy we have discontinued "speaker" badges. Though we can do attendee badges. I have attached artwork for that... also since the event is in October, I just created one for this year. Thoughts?
<img alt="linuxdayitaly.png" src="/fedora-badges/issue/raw/files/fb6c248e80ef789d2a14bdbd361199446893539a58157a9bd09ddf8d77105f2f-linuxdayitaly.png" /><img alt="linuxdayitaly.svg" src="/fedora-badges/issue/raw/files/0453063c89b9ba1cd0b9b8a909efd085d1c2bdbac41380595a37b8ab6fa1a3fb-linuxdayitaly.svg" />
Metadata Update from @riecatnor: - Custom field artwork adjusted to None - Custom field concept_review_passed adjusted to None
@alciregi Hi! Thanks for opening this ticket :) As part of Fedora Badge policy we have discontinued "speaker" badges. Though we can do attendee badges.
Didn't know that, sorry. The attendee badge for such event is pointless IMO. I don't know. Because this is a national event held in the same day in various cities all around the country. And it is not Fedora focused. And we don't have a Fedora ambassador (or the like) in each local event. Maybe a Fedora contributor can attend a local event on his behalf, but not representing Fedora. But who knows? Nobody can guarantee that.
Thanks.
Metadata Update from @riecatnor: - Issue tagged with: category - event, review
OK, thanks again for the idea! Closing the ticket as declined
Metadata Update from @riecatnor: - Issue close_status updated to: declined - Issue status updated to: Closed (was: Open)
I spotted just now another issue of the 2018 on the same topic #697 Maybe I will ping @blackfile Btw my concerns are still in place: we can't check who really attendee any of these events
I mean #652
@alciregi what we do at other large events is to have a QR code attendees can scan. Non-Fedorans either ignore it or ask questions that often lead to good conversations. Would this work?
Eh. @bex, the point is that this is not a large event. It is a national day with a bunch of more or less small events (in 77 cities the last year). In some of them there will be a talk or a booth related to Fedora (as far as we know in 5 of these events last year[1] [2]). Maybe some Fedorans will attend more of them, but who knows? Who holds the QR code in this case? We could start with this initiative anyway, involving the Fedorans that will host a talk or a booth in one of these events, look how it goes, and develop it in the upcoming years. What do you think? Ping @emape @corsaro @dariolesca
[1] https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/linux-day-2018-italy/ [1] currently, at the call for this year that I launched on the fedora-it mailing list and in a couple of other places, 4 people have expressed in hosting a talk in their city
Hello there, thank you @alciregi for pinging me.
I'd like to share my endorsement on @bex proposal. A QRCode available during and after the talk would be enough. This could also be used to let interested new comers open a new account and join the community.
Finally, I'd like to merge the ideas on badges expressed by @alciregi and @riecatnor. Maybe a badge with the projecting screen would be more meaningful. What do you think? (Disclaimer: I'm not an artist, I'm just expressing my idea) <img alt="linux-day-italy-2019.svg" src="/fedora-badges/issue/raw/files/9b1615a09698e093d90eeeb1ce8907c9cc66e0e4717470c59a47589ba447a492-linux-day-italy-2019.svg" />
Hello there, thank you @alciregi for pinging me. I'd like to share my endorsement on @bex proposal. A QRCode available during and after the talk would be enough.
My concern is: I.e. what about a Fedoran that attends the event in a city where there are no Fedora representatives or a Fedora booth/talk? It is not an event like FOSSCON or Linux Day Panama, that is limited to a single place or a single city.
On Sun, 2019-09-15 at 11:23 +0000, Alessio Ciregia wrote:
what about a Fedoran that attends the event in a city where there are no Fedora representatives or a Fedora booth/talk?
To really answer your concern, we have to define what this badge is for. Is it for people that attend a Linux Day in general or a Fedora talk during Linux Day?
In the first case you would be right and it is a problem. In the second version, the problem is already solved.
As you have seen, Fedora Badge policy has discontinued "speaker" badges, so it should be for attendees.
To really answer your concern, we have to define what this badge is for. Is it for people that attend a Linux Day in general or a Fedora talk during Linux Day? As you have seen, Fedora Badge policy has discontinued "speaker" badges, so it should be for attendees.
Please, let me try to reformulate my last statement: we have, for example, one "Fedorian" that will attend a Linux Day in city X without Fedora talks, another one that will attend a Linux Day in city Y and will attend the Fedora talk, and finally a third one that will attend Linux Day in city Y and won't attend the Fedora talk.
Who has the right to get the badge, all Fedorans or the one that will attend the Fedora talk?
On Sun, Sep 15, 2019, 2:48 PM Giovanni Grieco pagure@pagure.io wrote:
Please, let me try to reformulate my last statement: we have, for example, one "Fedorian" that will attend a Linux Day in city X without Fedora talks, another one that will attend a Linux Day in city Y and will attend the Fedora talk, and finally a third one that will attend Linux Day in city Y and won't attend the Fedora talk. Who has the right to get the badge, all Fedorans or the one that will attend the Fedora talk?
Yes. This is the point. Since there is no way to prove if a person attended a Linux Day in a city, what we can do?
Badge could be awarded only in those events where there is a Fedoran that take care of the QR code. Presumably, if there is such a person in place, this person should also represent Fedora in his/her city with a booth or a talk. And as far as we can see, we are covering only 4 events out of 77 (counting last year edition). So, if a community member attends an event without representing Fedora, no badges can be awarded in his/her city. This doesn't mean that Fedorans doesn't participate to the Linux Day. Obviously, if I partcipate to the event, but I do nothing for Fedora why should I be awarded with a badge? But if I am a Fedoran and I attend an event and I'm not aware of the badge, and there is nobody that tell me there is a badge, since there is nobody hosting a talk, I will not be able to get this badge even if the criterion is: you attended Italian Linux Day. That is what made.
After your questions, and after having written such a mess in the previous paragraph, is: if we decide to move forward with this ticket about this badge, we can look at it as a way to stimulate Fedora people in our country to take action (hosting a talk, running a booth) at least starting from the next year edition.
@corsaro, what do you think? @bex, @riecatnor, it worth a try?
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