#12098 Renaming distribution media for Fedora Server
Opened a month ago by jwhimpel. Modified 17 days ago

The Fedora Server WG is seriously contemplating changing the naming convention for its distribution media.

We have developed a naming convention that we would like to follow. It can be found here.

As we began our research in preparation of s system-wide change proposal, we discovered two things:
1. The current naming convention has it's tentacles far and wide
thought the distribution generation processes, distribution processes
and documentation.
2. The Fedora Server WG recognizes quite clearly that "we don't know
what we don't know".

We are hopeful the Release Engineering team will assist in the early stages of acquiring the necessary knowledge to develop a cogent and complete system-wide change.

  1. We need help in identifying all the areas within Fedora Project that would require change.

  2. We need help in developing a detailed statement of work for each of the areas requiring change.

We would greatly appreciate it if the Release Engineering team would assign someone from the team to work with us and serve a "guide" for us as we attempt to complete the two above objectives.

I have been appointed as the point of contact for this effort.

We look forward to engaging with the Release Engineering team for this
effort.


Metadata Update from @jnsamyak:
- Issue tagged with: changes, investigation, meeting

a month ago

I replied to your list post. I can copy that here? Or we can just discuss on the list.

Metadata Update from @patrikp:
- Issue assigned to patrikp

18 days ago

I have taken the liberty of posting a response from Kevin Fenzi.

On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 10:16:55AM GMT, John W. Himpel wrote:

The Fedora Server WG is seriously contemplating changing the naming
convention for its distribution media.

yeah.

We have developed a naming convention that we would like to follow.
It can be found at: https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/126

ok. I have tried to sort of follow it, but haven't dug in deep yet.

As we began our research in preparation of s system-wide change
proposal, we discovered two things:
1) The current naming convention has it's tentacles far and wide
thought the distribution generation processes, distribution processes
and documentation.

yes, renaming things is HARD. It requires changes to compose
configurations, and in some cases changes to compose tooling if they
don't support the name you want to use. It needs changes not only there,
but in compose scripts, then in QA stuff, then in tools that look for
images, then in websites to point to the right names and finally...
users will have to adjust any tooling they have to download/test/consume
things.

It's gonna be a long road. ;)

2) The Fedora Server WG recognizes quite clearly that "we don't know
what we don't know".

Thats true for everyone. ;)

We are hopeful the Release Engineering team will assist in the early
stages of acquiring the necessary knowledge to develop a cogent and
complete system-wide change. Firstly, we need help in identifying all
the areas within Fedora Project that would require change. Secondly,
we need help in developing a detailed statement of work for each of the
areas requiring change.

We can try, but releng is pretty overloaded/doesn't have too many spare
resources.

Off the top of my head, places needing changes:

  • pungi config/tool
  • kiwi config/tool
  • possibly lorax/pylorax
  • Releng compose sync scripting
  • fedfind (QE)
  • openqa / fedora-ci changes
  • websites
  • documentation/release notes

We would greatly appreciate if the Release Engineering team would
assign someone from the team to work with us and serve a "guide" for us
as we attempt to complete the two above objectives.

I have been appointed as the point of contact for this effort.

We look forward to engaging with the Release Engineering team for this
effort.

We can discuss it in our next weekly meeting and see if we can see
someone who can help.

kevin

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