In the Change proposal: please change "he" to "they" (or equivalent), see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singular_they.

+1

-1 until the discussion on devel is sorted.

It's been ~10 days since the last post on the devel thread. Can we move forward with a vote on this proposal now?

@otaylor do you consider the answers on devel satisfying?

/me doesn't know much about Ibus, but it seemed like there were unanswered concerns.

Yeah I also would like to hear from @otaylor.

/me begins the "@otaylor, @otaylor, @otaylor, @otaylor…" chant.

My take on it is that the user interface experience isn't sufficiently integrated to make this a good move for Fedora 30... out-of-the-box we need to have default input method for all users that you don't need to learn about or configure - that just works and seems like part of the operating system.

I think it would be great to encourage users who regularly input in indic languages to try this out in F29 and F30 - get some feedback about how it works for them, what they have problems with, figure out which of the many configure options are actually important, and which don't need to be easily accessed. Then hopefully we can refine the user interface and look at this for Fedora 31.

AGREED: Ibus-typing-booster default for Indian language is delegated to the Workstation WG as they have the best understanding of the problem (+7,0,-0) (jforbes, 15:08:06)

ACTION: otaylor will take the issue to the Workstation WG (jforbes,15:12:44)

@otaylor do we have an update from Workstation WG?

code complete deadline was 2 days ago.

Proposal to vote on: Move this change proposal to Fedora 31 (this doesn't mean approval).

+1 to @churchyard

mfabian told me that he doesn't mind defering this change to F31.

+1 to @churchyard

+1 to @churchyard

+1 to @churchyard

Change is moved to F31 (without approval or disapproval). (+5, 0, 0)

We should probably vote about this at some point. @mfabian Would you like to change the proposal or FESCo to vote on it as is?

Since this was approved for Fedora 31, I will close this ticket as accepted.

I don't think this was ever approved.

I don't think this was ever approved.

Correct. The vote was to defer a decision to F31:

Change is moved to F31 (without approval or disapproval). (+5, 0, 0)

My apologies, that is very clear to me now upon re-reading.

@mfabian Would you like to change the proposal or FESCo to vote on it as is?

@otaylor @mclasen Could we get Workstation WG to weigh in on the value of this Change for F31 please? When last we discussed this (for F30), if I remember correctly there was no consensus on which Indian language solution that Workstation preferred.

Proposal: This change is rejected due to lack of response. Change owner is free to resubmit it again.

+1 to @churchyard's proposal

Yeah, with no feedback from the stakeholders, I'm +1 to rejecting. (Or -1 to the Change, which would be a more traditional way to count these votes).

@zbyszek Was your +1 to @churchyard's proposal or the Change itself?

On Mon, 2019-06-03 at 11:14 +0000, Miro Hron=C4=8Dok wrote:

Proposal: This change is rejected due to lack of response. Change
owner is free to resubmit it again.

+1

This was discussed during today's FESCo meeting:
AGREED: This change is rejected due to lack of response. Change owner is free to resubmit it again. (+5, 0, 0)