#33 Replace Rhythmbox with GNOME Music in default install
Opened 2 years ago by catanzaro. Modified a month ago

We should replace Rhythmbox with GNOME Music in default install. In the past, when we discussed this, GNOME Music seemed somewhat slow and buggy and not really ready for prime time. It's had several rounds of performance improvements and stabilizations since then, and I think we've reached the point of diminishing returns where quality is going to improve more slowly now and there's less value in continuing to wait.

Regardless of what we decide regarding Music, we should remove Rhythmbox anyway, since Videos is a better default music player.


We discussed this issue at today's WG meeting but did not yet reach a consensus. Should continue discussion at a future meeting.

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2 years ago

@aday, do we want to bring this up for discussion again?

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2 years ago

@aday, do we want to bring this up for discussion again?

I'm not sure. What was the conclusion of the last discussion?

It would be great to have Music replace Rhythmbox, as it is a much more consistent with the rest of the UX. My experience is that it still has issues though. The last time I tried it, I hit this issue, for example.

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2 years ago

Well it's been another year.

I think Music is ready, but if the WG disagrees, let's at least remove Rhythmbox since Videos is a better default music player (given that it doesn't attempt to import every sound file played into a music database).

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6 months ago

I would prefer to make this decision in reference to a) the complete list of pre-installed apps and b) a policy and set of design goals for what gets pre-installed.

Where can I find a? Does b exist?

One feature missing in GNOME Music that was considered a blocker for this change in the past was the support for removable devices (phone, usb stick, etc...).

https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-music/issues/8

One feature missing in GNOME Music that was considered a blocker for this change in the past was the support for removable devices (phone, usb stick, etc...).

There are some polish issues that I'd like to see resolved too, although to my shame I haven't filed issues for them all yet (mostly things around the lists, which are inconsistent, and some of the playlist section is a bit broken).

However, I think we maybe have a bigger question to answer, which is: in 2020, is it useful to preinstall an app that's specifically for playing local music files? This isn't to say that it's not good to have those apps available, should someone want to use them, but it is to question whether it is important to have one of them preinstalled on every system.

in 2020, is it useful to preinstall an app that's specifically for playing local music files?

Good question. My instinct says no. I'd much rather have a recommended app for managing+playing podcasts. I've only used Vocal on Fedora, while gPodder has a higher score in GNOME Software.

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