#412 Side by side
Opened 8 years ago by churchyard. Modified a year ago

Badge description (like "You added a co-maintainer to a package. BFF!"): You've built a package in a side tag.

Help the badges team understand what this idea is all about. If this badge is awarded for certain kinds of activities:
1) What are those activities?

Trigger a build of any package in any side tag in Koji.

2) Who is doing them (are they packagers? translators? newcomers? veterans? users? sponsors?)

Packagers.

3) Why are they doing them (is this a means to a different end?)

When a new version of important lib is released.

4) When do they do them (every day? once a year?)

Side tags in Koji only happen when certain stack needs a rebuild. This is not very often, usually a few times a year.

5) How do they do them (by talking in IRC? by running commands in the console? by using a web interface?)

By using fedpkg.

Lastly, do you have any ideas for artwork concepts?

Some characters (badgers or pandas) standing side by side.


I think we could come up with a better concept for this one. If its Koji related, maybe we should try to include that logo in. My best idea would be to have a package, with a tag on it that also has a package on it? I am not sure that makes sense :P Anyone else have ideas?

I think we could come up with a better concept for this one. If its Koji related, maybe we should try to include that logo in. My best idea would be to have a package, with a tag on it that also has a package on it? I am not sure that makes sense :P Anyone else have ideas?

Discussed in [https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2016-11-02/fedora_badges.2016-11-02-11.05.html 2016-10-03 meeting].

riecatnor can correct me if wrong, but I think this badge concept is good to go, and it's ready for a designer to try tackling it. Triaging ticket and leaving it open for any future designers to go for. :)

Discussed in [https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2016-11-02/fedora_badges.2016-11-02-11.05.html 2016-10-03 meeting].

riecatnor can correct me if wrong, but I think this badge concept is good to go, and it's ready for a designer to try tackling it. Triaging ticket and leaving it open for any future designers to go for. :)

Here's what I've got in the works for now:
[[Image(ticket#412_attempt1.png)]]

Here's what I've got in the works for now:
[[Image(ticket#412_attempt1.png)]]

I'm not sure if that says "side tag" at all.

I'm not sure if that says "side tag" at all.

@churchyard, I'm not sure I know what you mean?

@churchyard, I'm not sure I know what you mean?

@maryshak1996 Sorry about that. I was trying to say that this badge proposal is about "side tag" and the picture you've provided makes the "tag" part very hidden and the "package" part more like a "present" or "gif".

I'm not a member of the design team, so my opinions are only based on what i feel and may not be relevant. However, if you are interested, I suggest you look at the following badges for tags:

https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/master-tagger-tagger-iv
https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/tagger-tagger-ii
https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/junior-tagger-tagger-i
https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/macklemore-tagger-v
https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/senior-tagger-tagger-iii

And packages:

https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/appdata-tributary
https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/proven-packager
https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/united-packages-of-fedora
https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/the-cat-came-back...
https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/the-tower-of-babel-koji-success-vii
https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/building-the-outer-ring-copr-build-iii
https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/you-can-call-me-patches-scm-i

And packages with tags:

https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/zomg-package-tagger-package-tagger-vii
https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/master-package-tagger-package-tagger-iv
https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/package-tagger-package-tagger-ii

And non-package badge similar to your proposal:

https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/consolation-prize

@riecatnor Also now when I'm looking at the "packages with tags" section of links above, I think your proposal about design may be easily confused with this series, what do you think?

@maryshak1996 Sorry about that. I was trying to say that this badge proposal is about "side tag" and the picture you've provided makes the "tag" part very hidden and the "package" part more like a "present" or "gif".

I'm not a member of the design team, so my opinions are only based on what i feel and may not be relevant. However, if you are interested, I suggest you look at the following badges for tags:

https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/master-tagger-tagger-iv
https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/tagger-tagger-ii
https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/junior-tagger-tagger-i
https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/macklemore-tagger-v
https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/senior-tagger-tagger-iii

And packages:

https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/appdata-tributary
https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/proven-packager
https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/united-packages-of-fedora
https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/the-cat-came-back...
https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/the-tower-of-babel-koji-success-vii
https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/building-the-outer-ring-copr-build-iii
https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/you-can-call-me-patches-scm-i

And packages with tags:

https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/zomg-package-tagger-package-tagger-vii
https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/master-package-tagger-package-tagger-iv
https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/package-tagger-package-tagger-ii

And non-package badge similar to your proposal:

https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/consolation-prize

@riecatnor Also now when I'm looking at the "packages with tags" section of links above, I think your proposal about design may be easily confused with this series, what do you think?

@churchyard, thanks for posting those... definitely helped to know kind of an idea of what it should look like is! I took from some of the package/ tag designs that you posted and created something new:
[[Image(ticket#412_attempt2.png)]]

@churchyard, thanks for posting those... definitely helped to know kind of an idea of what it should look like is! I took from some of the package/ tag designs that you posted and created something new:
[[Image(ticket#412_attempt2.png)]]

Hopefully this new design fits the concept a little bit better than the first one!

Hopefully this new design fits the concept a little bit better than the first one!

This looks much better, thank you! Why did you choose green for the package? I'm not saying it's wrong or anything, I'm just curious.

This looks much better, thank you! Why did you choose green for the package? I'm not saying it's wrong or anything, I'm just curious.

Ooohh, this looks nice. :) Further triaging ticket…

Ooohh, this looks nice. :) Further triaging ticket…

@churchyard The green was just to try something a little different that also complimented the light blue background well, but the color is certainly open to discussion too :)

@churchyard The green was just to try something a little different that also complimented the light blue background well, but the color is certainly open to discussion too :)

I'm not challenging it form the design perspective. The only thing that concerns me is that so far package was always cardboard colored. I've prepared 4 color variants just to put here to see others opinion. (The position of the packages on those is not perfect, I'v just tried to make the color visible.)

I've also noticed that the badge is not positioned in the center of the page.

[[Image(side-tag-gg.png)]] [[Image(side-tag-gc.png)]] [[Image(side-tag-cc.png)]] [[Image(side-tag-cg.png)]]

I must say that the cardboard only colored one is boring.
I like the cardboard package with green tag. What about you?

I'm not challenging it form the design perspective. The only thing that concerns me is that so far package was always cardboard colored. I've prepared 4 color variants just to put here to see others opinion. (The position of the packages on those is not perfect, I'v just tried to make the color visible.)

I've also noticed that the badge is not positioned in the center of the page.

[[Image(side-tag-gg.png)]] [[Image(side-tag-gc.png)]] [[Image(side-tag-cc.png)]] [[Image(side-tag-cg.png)]]

I must say that the cardboard only colored one is boring.
I like the cardboard package with green tag. What about you?

I agree that the green tag/ cardboard package looks good! I just centered the design of the tag and changed the badge to this color combination:
[[Image(ticket#412_attempt3.png)]]

I agree that the green tag/ cardboard package looks good! I just centered the design of the tag and changed the badge to this color combination:
[[Image(ticket#412_attempt3.png)]]

I love it <3.

Let's just wait for someone from the design team to say their judgement.

I love it <3.

Let's just wait for someone from the design team to say their judgement.

Nice work so far maryshak1996!

Two suggestions for you:
1. Can you try a version where the graphics are centered in the middle of the badge, similar to this one: https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/associate-editor

  1. Can you try a version where the background flat with a pattern, or has a simple gradient?

Thanks!

Nice work so far maryshak1996!

Two suggestions for you:
1. Can you try a version where the graphics are centered in the middle of the badge, similar to this one: https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/associate-editor

  1. Can you try a version where the background flat with a pattern, or has a simple gradient?

Thanks!

riecatnor; here's what you mentioned :)
[[Image(ticket#412_attempt4.png)]]

riecatnor; here's what you mentioned :)
[[Image(ticket#412_attempt4.png)]]

Looks great!!

Can you try a version with a darker outline on the front tag? Otherwise, this badge is very close to completion :)

Looks great!!

Can you try a version with a darker outline on the front tag? Otherwise, this badge is very close to completion :)

[[Image(ticket#412_attempt5.png)]]

[[Image(ticket#412_attempt5.png)]]

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7 years ago

@maryshak1996, outline looks good! I noticed now the "string" between the two graphics is light green, and it's getting lost... Maybe it could be the same dark green, or grey? Let me know what you think

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6 years ago

Closing this ticket due to inactivity during Badges virtual hackfest. Please reopen if their is renewed interest. Thanks!

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2 years ago

Hi @designstacks thanks for starting work here.. I think it would be good to look at the past work and comments on the ticket. This badge is about koji, tags, and packages, you can find references in this prior comment: https://pagure.io/fedora-badges/issue/412#comment-422153
Based on that I would suggest revisiting your art and potentially working off a previous design on this ticket.
I also notice that you have made adjustments to the badge template. Make sure you use a new template file and then import whatever artwork in without making any changes to the template.
Thanks!

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2 years ago

Hello, @riecatnor @smeragoel I've worked on this issue. Please review and let me know what you think thank you.

Issue tagged with: AW: needed

a year ago

A summary of the design work that needs to be done here:
- Take the source file from this comment and make the string going between the tag and the package a darker grey. Right now it is getting a bit lost against the other colors.
- After reading the description, I think this could be a badge series. Once the change from my last comment is complete and approved, make one badge for each 1, 5, 10, 25, 50, 100

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a year ago

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a year ago

Hello @riecatnor and @smeragoel
I would love to contribute to this badge but the referenced badge has an error while loading it which makes it not accessible.

Hello @riecatnor @smeragoel, please can we get the Svg of this badge?

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a year ago

@riecatnor Thank you so much, I have effected the corrections

@riecatnor I have effected the corrections
side_by_side_1.pngside_by_side_1.svgside_by_side_5.pngside_by_side_5.svgside_by_side_10.pngside_by_side_10.svgside_by_side_25.pngside_by_side_25.svgside_by_side_50.pngside_by_side_50.svgside_by_side_100.pngside_by_side_100.svg

@riecatnor I tried the numbering out with a different color
side_by_side_1.pngside_by_side_1.svg
side_by_side_5.pngside_by_side_5.svg
side_by_side_10.pngside_by_side_10.svgside_by_side_25.pngside_by_side_25.svg
side_by_side_50.pngside_by_side_50.svgside_by_side_100.pngside_by_side_100.svg

Hi @duchessolive! Thank you for your work, here is my feedback":100:
1. Let's focus on finalising the illustration first, and then creating the series to reduce the effort
2. The string is still getting lost against the background. I would suggest adding a stroke on the string and maybe playing with two colours to better highlight it against the background. Maybe a dark grey stroke with a light grey fill?
3. The formatting of the numbers used doesn't match the Fedora style guide. I would suggest reviewing the style guide, existing badges to understand the numbering style. You can also refer to the office hours video where @riecatnor answered questions about numbering style and did a demo too: Fedora Badges Office Hour

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a year ago

Hi folks! this is a tricky one, thanks for your perseverance! Feedback below

@lydiaogh notes for you:
- I think the grey string still isn't looking quite right.. its hard to see at a small size. Maybe try a dark grey, a dark green, maybe dark brown? I would suggest increasing the width of the string part and adding a stroke to the knot in the foreground (on the tag)
- I think overall, it is feel a bit crowded, and the elements can be reduced a bit overall to give them some more breathing room
- The red color you are using for the numbering is sticking out.. I would try a Fedora color like white/orange/dark brown or white/green/dark green

@duchessolive notes for you:
- I think I have similar feedback for you, the string is still getting a bit lost. I think the brown/orange combo is working better than the green (which gets lost on the green tag).. I would try thickening the string and adding a stroke to the knot in the foreground
- I would also suggest making the package and tag elements a bit smaller, that "100" feels very cramped in the bottom right
- The lettering looks pretty good to me as is, it could be increased a bit depending on how the resizing of the other elements goes

Looking forward to your next drafts :smile:

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a year ago

@duchessolive:
- I think there's some weird clipping thing going on with the hole in the tag. Also, the scribble on the knot can be refined more
- I'd say reduce the size of the illustration just a tiny bit so we have more space for the text and we can increase the size of the text. Just a bit tho, not too much!

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