#2452 F33 Self-Contained Change: Policy for Modules in Fedora and Fedora ELN
Opened 13 days ago by bcotton. Modified a day ago

Establish a set of rules for Modular content in Fedora to ensure an optimal user and packager experience.


In principle, I am +1 to this change.

However, I am -1 to allowing default streams in Fedora right now. Thus, I would propose to accept this change with the proviso that only Fedora ELN may use default streams at this time, and default streams for ELN, and ELN only are delegated to the ELN SIG with a report for review by FESCo on the progress of using modularity technology in this manner.

In principle, I am +1 to this change.
However, I am -1 to allowing default streams in Fedora right now. Thus, I would propose to accept this change with the proviso that only Fedora ELN may use default streams at this time, and default streams for ELN, and ELN only are delegated to the ELN SIG with a report for review by FESCo on the progress of using modularity technology in this manner.

That seems perfectly reasonable to me. I've also got a request from @churchyard to encode that into the policy text which I'm going to take care of.

If we are to allow default modular streams for whatever reason in Fedora, EPEL or ELN I think the proposed policy makes sense. However I do not support allowing default modular streams anywhere (neither in Fedora nor in EPEL nor in ELN) for reasons that have been already stated many times before. I'll vote depending on what this change actually is proposing, but until we know that, I'm -1.

Same for me. I am -1 until we have a proposal on where default streams are enabled. I do not support default module streams for Fedora or EPEL.

@dcantrell The idea here is that this policy describes how default streams would work, while this Change would scope enabling default streams exclusively to Fedora ELN.

@dcantrell The idea here is that this policy describes how default streams would work, while this Change would scope enabling default streams exclusively to Fedora ELN.

Exactly this. I just tweaked the Summary section of the Change Proposal to state explicitly that this is only about ELN right now (though the policy could be applied to Fedora and EPEL in a future Change, but I'm not asking for that right now).

I wonder where does that information come from thou, because I've asked about this repeatedly and it was neither denied nor confirmed. The only bit that remotely touches this is:

https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/2OZMN2S2SJMNV5TJ4ZJ45HHIDPXWHSSE/

I like Neal's proposal of "Fedora ELN may use default streams at this
time, and default streams for ELN [...] are delegated to the ELN SIG
with a report for review by FESCo on the progress of using modularity
technology in this manner" in the FESCo approval ticket.

But still, this has not been discussed as part of this propsal :/

My previous comment was sent before I've seen the comment by @sgallagh.
Thanks for the update of the summary.

My remaining concerns are the following:

  • the policy should mention explicitly that the default streams part is only applicable to ELN
  • allowing default modular streams in ELN was still not discussed with the wider community (which was the reason I've wanted this to go trough the change process)

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