#1146 F20 System Wide Change: Visible Cloud - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/VisibleCloud
Closed None Opened 6 years ago by jreznik.

For the 2013-07-24 meeting as the Change Proposal was announced on devel-announce list on 2013-07-15.

https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2013-July/185338.html


(Not going to be at next week's meeting, commenting here.)

+1 in general. Minor concern about the releng stuff being ready in time.

+1 to the "visibility" idea (assuming QA or security teams don't come with major objections, which they haven't so far AFAICS).

I'm concerned about this part:

Building images in Koji using virtualization and Anaconda, rather than using a chroot-based appliance-creator. This will ensure that the cloud image is more in line with The Real Fedora.
I haven't seen rel-eng commenting on it
Wasn't this proposed for F19 as well?
I hope there is a consensus on this rel-eng change; with the limited knowledge I have now I wouldn't feel comfortable with FESCo requiring rel-eng to do this. (Perhaps I'm overcomplicating things and we can clarify on the meeting.)

One more thing - I apologize for asking stupid questions but I'd really rather have this explicit:

Has this proposal been discussed by the websites and marketing teams? The policy only says proposals are sent to devel-announce; are they monitoring this?

IIRC the push to have a "default" desktop as opposed to a "GNOME spin" came from these groups, so they should have an opportunity to voice their opinion on this as well.

Matthew, could you contact websites and marketing teams?

+1

Yes, I'll contact the websites and marketing teams. I spoke with them informally before and during the F19 cycle, but wanted to see if there was approval for this before going too far forward.

mitr, there are a number of rel-eng tickets related to the koji image building plan; depending on the final schedule, we may miss F20 again so that might need to be removed from the feature. (As noted, this is "severable" and doesn't impact the rest of the plan, as long as we can get images built somehow.) Jay Greguske is working on the implementation, and was waiting on the Oz release that just happened, so I'm pretty sure it can move forward, but we may still miss F20.

I am, for the record, +1 to my own feature. :)

+1 from me, which I think hits the level of "approval" barring a FESCo member proposing this for in-meeting discussion.

I'm ok with it. Perhaps we could try and have a websites/releng meet up with you next week and hash out how things are and what we need work on?

Replying to [comment:9 kevin]:

I'm ok with it. Perhaps we could try and have a websites/releng meet up with you next week and hash out how things are and what we need work on?

Yes, that would be great.

I count +7. Feature is approved.

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