#1076 2013-02-06 meeting feature voting
Closed None Opened 9 years ago by kevin.

ok, we have 45 new features for the 2013-02-06 meeting.

I'd like fesco members to take a few minutes and determine which of them they '''do wish to discuss and vote on'''. All the rest we can simple approve in a block.

Either add your list here or have it ready for tomorrow's meeting please, and I will sort them all and we can go through the list that anyone has asked to discuss and we can approve the rest.


My list to discuss/vote on:

Dracut HostOnly
Cinnamon as Default Desktop
systemd Calendar Timers
systemd/udev Hardware Database

These I am ok with, but wish they would change the names of their features:

Enterprise / distributed two-factor authentication
Ease Of Use: System Management with OpenLMI
PreUpgrade Assistant

The rest are ok with me.

My list to discuss in addition to the kevin's list above:
Apache Openoffice
Yum groups as objects

My list to discuss in addition:
First Class Cloud Images
Enterprise/Distributed 2FA
Add LVM Thin Provisioning
Anaconda New UI followup (pending answer to question on devel@

Have a question in the ticket for
CUPS 1.6
but that's more of a query, as opposed to something that might change a vote.

I don't think
really qualifies as a feature.

My list to discuss in addition:
* GNOME 3.8 - no contingency plan, are we OK with that?

I have a question about firewalld Lockdown, the answer is not likely to change my vote.

I'd like to propose the following Features as "needs discussion":

  • https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1035 - Dracut !HostOnly
  • I don't think the startup gains are worth increasing our boot fragility.

  • https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1036 - Enterprise / distributed two-factor authentication

  • We've tried to put them in contact with the other groups in Fedora that are working on 2FA and the Feature owner has not responded at all on the list.

  • https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1038 - Apache !OpenOffice

  • Plenty of discussion on the list. I'd probably recommend an approach similar to the MariaDB/MySQL solution: make sure that they can coexist and let them maintain it if they want to. Make no modification at this time to the defaults on Live media.

  • https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1045 - Cinnamon as Default Desktop

  • No. I think we have plenty to discuss regarding GNOME 3's place in the world, but Cinnamon is not ready for default status. We can argue all we want about the alternatives, but we have too much momentum on GNOME 3 right now, and I'd also like to see how Classic Mode plays out.

  • https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1055 - New firstboot

  • This Feature needs to land, but I want some public guarantees about how it's going to play with GNOME Initial Experience.

  • https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1064 - Simplify !Java/Maven Packaging using XMvn

  • I just want to have some clear packaging guideline rules in place for approving this. Otherwise I'm good with it.

  • https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1068 - Trusted Network Connect

  • Bill raised some valid concerns about how this plays with NM

  • https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1070 - Yum Groups as Objects

  • As I stated on the list, I don't think this should be a Feature. It's not solving the real problem and it's doing it in a way that's only a marginal improvement. By all means go ahead and do it, but we're not going to advertise it.

  • https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1071 - systemd Calendar Timers

  • There are plenty of valid concerns here that I think need their time in the spotlight at the meeting.

If I haven't listed it above, you may assume I have a +1 vote for
en-block voting.

All of the features I think need discussion are already listed by someone else in this ticket. I'm covered.

Replying to [comment:6 jwboyer]:

All of the features I think need discussion are already listed by someone else in this ticket. I'm covered.

Likewise, I think the list as it stands suits my needs.

All interesting features were already mentioned by others.

ok, from all those I get the following list.


topic #1008 F19 Feature: First-Class Cloud Images - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/FirstClassCloudImages

topic #1030 F19 Feature: AnacondaNewUI Followup - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/AnacondaNewUI_Followup

topic #1033 F19 Feature: CUPS 1.6 - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/CUPS1.6

topic #1035 F19 Feature: Dracut HostOnly - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/DracutHostOnly

topic #1036 F19 Feature: Enterprise / distributed two-factor authentication - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/EnterpriseTwoFactorAuthentication

topic #1038 F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ApacheOpenOffice

topic #1040 F19 Feature: firewalld Lockdown -

topic #1042 F19 Feature: GNOME 3.8 -

topic #1045 F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop -

topic #1055 F19 Feature: New firstboot - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/NewFirstboot

topic #1056 F19 Feature: OpenAttestation - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/OpenAttestation

topic #1064 F19 Feature: Simplify Java/Maven Packaging using XMvn - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Simplified_Maven_Packaging

topic #1066: F19 Feature: Network Team driver - Update for new features - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/TeamDriverUpdate

topic #1068: F19 Feature: Trusted Network Connect (TNC) - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Trusted_Network_Connect_%28TNC%29

topic #1069: F19 Feature: Add LVM Thin provisioning support to the yum-fs-snapshot #plugin - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/YumFsSnapshotThinpSupport

topic #1070: F19 Feature: Yum Groups as Objects - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/YumGroupsAsObjects

topic #1071: F19 Feature: systemd Calendar Timers - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SystemdCalendarTimers

topic #1072: F19 Feature: systemd/udev Hardware Database - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SystemdHardwareDatabase


Let me know if I left any out people do want or if there are some where questions have been answered and we no longer need to discuss. Thanks.

This meeting is over and we discussed the ones listed. :)

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