https://getfedora.org/en/workstation/download/ Optionally, you may install Fedora Workstation to a laptop or desktop computer that has at least 1 GHz processor, 1 GB RAM, and 10 GB space available.
These minimums need revisiting.
a. 1GB in a VM does not work with live install media (I'm disregarding zram.service for testing this), so that's straight out. 1500M does allow the installer to be launched, and this is better behavior than F28 live where even 1792 RAM isn't enough. I'd say this should be 2GiB. And consider zram.service as an optimizer rather than as a way to make something work that otherwise won't work.
b. 10 GB disk space should probably be 15G-20G. A clean installation of F29 Live is 5.1G. And at least 2GiB will be swap (per above minimum), leaving 3GiB free before the first update, which ~4 weeks from GA will be ~1.5G download and plausibly now they can't update their system if they really only put the whole thing in 10GiB space.
No comment on processor speed minimum.
+1 to approve 2 GB and 20 GiB minimums
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+1 on this change, although there are some reports that 2 GB may be less than optimal for Workstation too.
I agree completely on 1GB -> 2GB
I verified that it is indeed quite possible to install F29 Workstation in 10GB:
[localhost-live ~]$ df -h / Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/mapper/fedora_localhost--live-root 7.9G 5.5G 2.0G 74% / [localhost-live ~]$ df / Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/mapper/fedora_localhost--live-root 8187320 5551884 2199828 72% / [localhost-live ~]$ free -m total used free shared buff/cache available Mem: 1992 964 355 9 672 867 Swap: 1023 4 1019
(This is after running dnf update --assumeno.)
dnf update --assumeno
Obviously the 10GB minimum should be revised, but a 20GB minimum requirement of storage seems quite generous (though sure I would recommend >15GB for most general use-cases). Note also on a 2GB system default swap is only 1GB (50%, just like for larger mem configs).
(For fun I did try a 1.5GB install too on 10GB storage and that worked too, though the install and boot were maybe just a touch more sluggish that 2GB. I think this system had 1.5GB of swap.)
I think it would actually be good to revisit and review all the text on https://getfedora.org/en/workstation/download/
Optionally, you may install Fedora Workstation to a laptop or desktop computer that has at least 1 GHz processor, 1 GB RAM, and 10 GB space available.
(Firstly the "Optionally" reads awkwardly to me, I know what it is trying to say but it sounds overcautious: almost like we don't really want to recommend installing.)
How about this:
"We recommend having at least 2GB RAM and 15-20GB disk space for an installation of Fedora Workstation."
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The text under "Running Fedora Workstation" needs to be reviewed and improved.
In the WG meeting Owen pointed out:
Owen kindly agreed to open a fedora-websites ticket to improve the text.
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ACTION: otaylor will follow up on this ticket, as noted
Was there a websites ticket for this?
I've created https://pagure.io/fedora-websites/issue/968. Note most of the requested changes here were obsoleted by the new website design, so I only requested for the minimum system requirements to be updated.
Bringing the technical discussion from https://pagure.io/fedora-websites/issue/968 back here, make a decision that then websites can just go do their thing.
Current: Fedora requires a minimum of 10GB disk, 1GB RAM, and a 1GHz processor to install and run successfully.
Proposal 1: Fedora Workstation requires a minimum of 20GB disk, 2GB RAM, and a 1GHz processor to install and run successfully.
Proposal 2: Fedora Workstation requires a minimum of 20GB disk, 2GB RAM, to install and run successfully. And double those amounts is recommended.
+1 proposal 2
I'm also +1 for proposal 2.
+1 for proposal 2
+1 for both
I just note for the record that 15GB is quite sufficient for a minimal WS installation: there are different use-cases - someone may just want a small VM to try out first.
Implemented in https://pagure.io/fedora-web/websites/c/041ed56.
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