We need a page that describes the Fedora Workstation Third Party repositories concept and lists out all the repos we're shipping, something we could link to from gnome-software from here: https://kalev.fedorapeople.org/find-out-more.png
I talked to @mattdm about this a while back and he said that we should get a docs.fedoraproject.org page for that, but I don't think this has materialized. Could someone help write something up in the wiki for now, and we can change the link later to docs site when we get that? This is a bit pressing right now as F27 gnome-software update that makes the third party repos concept very prominent is in updates-testing and I'd very much like to have the link pointing to something reasonable when we push it to stable.
The docs site is live and ready to go. Depending on the content, we could put it under
... where for the latter we'd add a "Fedora Workstation" section.
Thanks @mattdm and sorry I was so pushy. What's the next step now? Do we (Workstation WG) write the content or the docs team? If we can decide on the URL by Monday I think I should be able to get the link updated in gnome-software and pushed through the F28 beta FE process.
Putting out a call to the docs team is a good idea. @ankursinha are you interested in helping draft something? It would be good to have this really be a community consensus document (or, where we don't have strong agreement, outline areas where we are trying things to see what works).
Anyway at the very least the docs team can help with getting things converted to asciidoc and formatted nicely.
@bex can help with getting the repo set up and the URL working.
Yes. I'd like to help with this if that's OK.
I've also filed two tickets upstream to improve phrasing/terminology in Gnome Software to make it more Free Software related:
Cheers!
Any chance we could get a placeholder page online today so I could update the links in gnome-software for F28 Beta?
Should we use this page to begin drafting the text that can then be moved to the docs page?
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation/Third_party_software_list
References worth looking at while drafting the text:
I think it's probably better to start a new page for that. I tried to put together an initial page at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation/Third_Party_Software_Repositories , do you want to help complete it?
Updated the links in gnome-software to point to the new wiki page: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-software/commit/3f7670f374e573f261e08dc4cb3a44faa4b9dc72
and in fedora-workstation-repositories package: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/fedora-workstation-repositories/c/17829ecb5fb813a03a0a34bdf5f9301faaa9a16c
Sure. I'll begin working on that page too. Thanks.
I took a stab at it. Here's a draft:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha/Third_Party_Software_Repositories
I've tried to make the page both informative and educational, and tried to use the opportunity to give Free/Open source alternatives some visibility too. I've also filed this ticket to request Gnome-software upstream to list Free/Open source alternatives when showing restricted/proprietary software: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-software/issues/372
Comments?
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I added an editorial pass to make minor stylistic and readability changes. The page was quite well written IMHO.
WG agreed to update https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation/Third_Party_Software_Repositories with https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha/Third_Party_Software_Repositories (+1:5 0:1, -1:0)
Once that is done this ticket can be closed.
Thank you. Should I also get in touch with the docs team for a page that would hold this information (as initially planned)? I can do the coversion to docs bit too.
Here's a candidate for the video, by the way. I was waiting for the SIG to have a look at the text in the ticket first: https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/user-liberation-watch-and-share-our-new-video (It has subtitles in different languages etc too, and was made by the FSF)
The new version, in my opinion, would be much improved by a summary like the beginning of the old version as an introduction, then only getting to explaining free and open software afterwards.Someone clicked on a link in GNOME Software and opened a web page - their immediate need is context and not tutorial - and they may well already have some idea about free software already. Just a couple of sentences. I'd also include, in an introductory summary, a link to the section that lists what is included, so that the user can "get to the point" without having to scroll around the page.
@otaylor: I've added a summary that on the top of the page that explains the context of this page. Would something like that do?
The summary did improve things from my perspective. This was discussed a bit further at the last meeting, and the page should be all set now.
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