#34 Add Simple Scan and To Do to default install
Closed 6 years ago Opened 6 years ago by catanzaro.

For GNOME 3.26, we added three new core apps upstream: Music, Simple Scan, and To Do. See https://blogs.gnome.org/mcatanzaro/2017/08/13/gnome-3-26-core-applications/.

Music is tracked separately in #33.

Simple Scan and To Do are probably uncontroversial; I just forgot to add them last year. If somebody wants to object to these, please add the meeting tag. Otherwise, I'll apply our previous agreement to add new GNOME core apps to comps automatically except in cases where the WG chooses to make an exception.

Note: there are no upstream plans to change the core apps anytime soon, so this should be it for a while. The next change would probably be adding gnome-credentials to replace seahorse, but I don't expect that anytime soon.


This change was rejected (+1,0,-3), we'll prefer to install these with GNOME Software instead.

I half agree that To Do is perhaps overkill to have by default, but I think this is a mistake for Simple Scan, as scanning is core computer/GNOME functionality that doesn't make much sense to exclude, IMO.

Metadata Update from @catanzaro:
- Issue status updated to: Closed (was: Open)

6 years ago

Reopening this due to a plot twist. I just discovered that To Do and Simple Scan are actually already installed by default in F27. Kalev added them in #25; I had totally forgotten that we'd already had this conversation. But this change went in right after branching, so they were not added to F28. Then, when I was reviewing default apps recently, I noticed they were not present and assumed I had forgotten to propose them.

When we discussed this change today, we were obviously doing so under the assumption that To Do and Simple Scan were not already installed by default. We should hold a separate vote here on whether to remove them, now that they already exist. Let's vote separately on each app. WG members, please vote here. +1 is to remove the app from default install, -1 is to keep the app.

Here are my votes:

simple-scan: -1, I like this one and want to keep it.

gnome-todo: +1, our discussion today convinced me that the opinion of the WG is that we should be stricter about default apps. (I would also make this change upstream, with approval from aday.)

Metadata Update from @catanzaro:
- Issue status updated to: Open (was: Closed)

6 years ago

simple-scan: -1, I like this one and want to keep it.

In particular: when searching for "scan" in the overview, I think it's useful that Simple Scan appears as a blessed default app, rather than a random app that happens to be available from Software. Also nice to be able to say that scanning works out-of-the-box.

WG members, please remember to vote again, right here in this issue, so we don't have to discuss this again at the next meeting. Deadline: next Thursday.

Simple scan -1
Gnome Todo +1
(Same as proposed by Michael)

+1 is to remove the app from default install, -1 is to keep the app.

This was a dumb choice of notation, using +1 to vote against the app and -1 to vote in favor... so please be careful and do not accidentally vote in reverse!

Due to low participation here, I guess we'll need to discuss it at the meeting again....

Metadata Update from @catanzaro:
- Issue tagged with: meeting

6 years ago

Discussed at this week's Workstation WG meeting, and agreed to the proposal: add/keep todo, remove simplescan

Discussed at today's meeting.

We agreed to retain simple-scan by adding it to F28 comps, and also to remove gnome-todo by taking no action on that. Both votes were +6,1,-0. (These are both already present in F27 comps, but not F28 comps, due to a branching issue.)

Metadata Update from @catanzaro:
- Issue status updated to: Closed (was: Open)

6 years ago

Metadata Update from @catanzaro:
- Issue untagged with: meeting

5 years ago

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