#10 colab on Fedora Mobile Edition?
Opened 2 years ago by rdieter. Modified 8 months ago

The KDE SIG would to collaborate with the Mobility SIG to produce a new Fedora Mobile Edition based on Plasma mobile.

Plasma mobile is under heavy development, and the KDE SIG is actively working to get it all packaged.

So this ticket is mostly about what level of interest there is in working together to make a Fedora Mobile edition. Any help and feedback you have would be greatly appreciated.

For reference, here's the kde-sig ticket tracking the topic as well,
https://pagure.io/fedora-kde/SIG/issue/41


we would like to do it.

I'd defintely be in favor of helping produce a plasma moble version...

Unfortunately, right now out main target has been pinephone, but it's still not really upstream enough to make fedora images directly for. We do have a remix with a 3rd party kernel.

So, I'd say:

  • get plasma mobile all packaged.
  • add a comps group for it.
  • we start looking at producing a remix image with it.

Then once enough is upstream to start doing fedora spins we can do one for it as well...

As I build nightly test-images for Phosh/Gnome daily, I'd love to set same up for new Plasma-mobile images. Just tell us what we need to push into such images - on #fedora-mobility or here.

Here is a list of the current package situation:

alligator ok
angelfish copr
audiotube -
calindori copr
daykountdown -
kalk copr
kasts -
kclock ok
krecorder ok
kweather ok
mtp-server -
mycroft-plasmoid-mobile -
plasma-camera -
plasma-dialer -
plasma-mobile-sounds -
plasma-phone-components copr
plasma-phone-settings -
plasma-phonebook -
plasma-settings copr
plasmatube -
qmlkonsole ok
qrca -
spacebar -
vakzination -

ok = in fedora repo | copr = in (some) copr repo | - = not packaged for Fedora yet

Status spreadsheet created https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OqQPNRufnIRjwVFp84KWWuIWXkUoEN8NNMmWb8nKSV8/edit#gid=0

For those that don't want to use Google Docs, this is the status as of right now:

Package Status Notes
alligator In Repo
angelfish In Review https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2020547
applet-window-buttons In Repo
audiotube In Copr https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/justinz/plasma-mobile-apps/packages/
calindori In Copr https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/justinz/plasma-mobile-apps/packages/
kalendar In Repo
kalk In Copr https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/justinz/plasma-mobile-apps/packages/
kasts In Copr https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/justinz/plasma-mobile-apps/packages/
kclock In Repo
keysmith In Repo
khealthcertificate In Copr https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/justinz/plasma-mobile-apps/packages/
kirigami-addons In Repo
koko In Copr https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/justinz/plasma-mobile-apps/packages/
kongress In Copr https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/justinz/plasma-mobile-apps/packages/
kpeoplevcard In Copr https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/alho/plamo/packages/
krecorder In Repo
ktrip In Copr https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/justinz/plasma-mobile-apps/packages/
kweather In Repo
kweather-core In Repo
maui-mauitkit In Repo
mtp-server N/A Confirmed no longer in use by Bhushan Shah of PlaMo
mycroft-plasmoid-mobile Waiting Awaiting reply from Aix as to if this should be packaged.
phonesim In Review https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2021032
plasma-camera In Review https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2021134
plasma-dialer In Review https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2021032
plasma-mobile-sounds Waiting Spoke to PlaMo developers and this repo is being moved.
plasma-phonebook In Copr https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/alho/plamo/packages/
plasma-settings In Copr https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/alho/plamo/packages/
plasmatube In Copr https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/justinz/plasma-mobile-apps/packages/
qmlkonsole In Review https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1969282
qrca Waiting Awaiting info from PlaMo team. No release, no apps.kde.org page
spacebar In Review https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2021040
tokodon In Review https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2020307
vakzination In Copr https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/justinz/plasma-mobile-apps/packages/

Wow. thanks for the detailed chart!

@rdieter I believe we have done all we can, that you asked for. See @justinz nice chart above. There is no more packages for plamo to package - but we don't have any proven packagers that can take this further into Fedora, and get it review'd - I hope the KDE SIG will grab it all from here.

I believe @kevin, @rdieter, and myself are provenpackagers and package sponsors.

There is a new KDE build now here: https://gitlab.com/fedora/sigs/mobility/sdm845/op6

Maybe we can also add https://gitlab.com/fedora/sigs/mobility to the README. I can't open a PR on pagure for some reason.

The KDE SIG would to collaborate with the Mobility SIG to produce a new Fedora Mobile Edition based on Plasma mobile.

Plasma mobile is under heavy development, and the KDE SIG is actively working to get it all packaged.

So this ticket is mostly about what level of interest there is in working together to make a Fedora Mobile edition. Any help and feedback you have would be greatly appreciated.

For reference, here's the kde-sig ticket tracking the topic as well,
https://pagure.io/fedora-kde/SIG/issue/41

We want to be consistent with other Editions so the default DE on Fedora Mobile should be GNOME with WIP changes by Jonas Dreßler or with Phosh/Phoc.

Consistent with a non-existing GNOME (WIP-version) ?
I Don't think so...

There is no reason that we have to use a non-existent GNOME version or Phosh because Workstation uses GNOME.

There are specific reasons for why Workstation uses GNOME that doesn't apply here.

That said, @thunderbirdtr has been away for a while and @justinz helped get us over the finish line on getting the packages in place.

I talked to @kevin about this at Flock and I'm hoping I can put aside some time to leverage my experience maintaining Fedora kernels for Fedora Mobility.

There is no reason that we have to use a non-existent GNOME version or Phosh because Workstation uses GNOME.

Agreed.

There are specific reasons for why Workstation uses GNOME that doesn't apply here.

Right.

But... we currently have a Phosh image, many people in the mobility sig use it and went to a lot of work to get everything packaged.

I have 0 problem with a kde/kf5/plasma version, I think thats great.
I disagree with just making a new kde/kf5/plasma image and making it default and dropping the Phosh image that many people have expended a bunch of effort on.

That said, @thunderbirdtr has been away for a while and @justinz helped get us over the finish line on getting the packages in place.

I talked to @kevin about this at Flock and I'm hoping I can put aside some time to leverage my experience maintaining Fedora kernels for Fedora Mobility.

Yeah, it would be nice to move remixes to a remix kernel instead of using the megi kernel as is.
That could help us figure out what needs upstreaming for mainline too. :)
That would all be awsome, IMHO.

I disagree with just making a new kde/kf5/plasma image and making it default and dropping the Phosh image that many people have expended a bunch of effort on.

I am not proposing dropping the Phosh image at all. And plenty of folks have expended a lot of effort bringing in the Plasma Mobile stack into Fedora too.

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