#222 Publicizing "Fedora affiliates" (or groups using Fedora)
Closed: Not possible 10 days ago by x3mboy. Opened 3 years ago by jflory7.

Discussed in 2016-02-24 meeting.

What

It was mentioned during the meeting that it would be helpful and useful for Ambassadors to have a place to show people / groups examples of other groups successfully running Fedora on their own infrastructure.

Ideas for this would be companies powering their infrastructure with Fedora, schools or universities that have Fedora computer labs, and other similar types of cases.

How

The difficult part in accomplishing this is identifying the list of entities that are using Fedora in applications like this. Would a call for action be needed, such as on the Magazine / Community Blog? Do we have a past list like this somewhere?

Once these questions are answered and we have the list, we can ''then'' move on to how we want to publish and publicize the list.


Discussed in 2016-03-02 meeting.


Two parts to ticket

In the meeting, we identified that this ticket will consist of two primary tasks:

  1. Creating the process to let organizations apply for official recognition (and developing the criteria for being recognized).
  2. Begin building an initial list of organizations actively using Fedora for the publication of this list.

Fabio (@fale) took responsibility for drafting an initial list / procedure for how an organization could gain official recognition by the Fedora Project. We'll check in on the status of this initial draft next week. The idea is that once there's a workable draft, we can have some collaboration and feedback on the process and build it into a final product.

Past attempts

As far as we can tell, there have not been any past attempts at doing something like this, but perhaps it was under another name? Remy (@decause) was going to ping the Education mailing list with a link to the initial draft to see if we could gain some feedback or thoughts from the folks there as well.

Campus Ambassadors can help

@ardian also noted that this would be a fantastic opportunity for the Campus Ambassadors to help with in their role as students at universities and schools. If a school is using Fedora already, the Campus Ambassador can work on getting this officially recognized in the Project through this process. If they are not using Fedora, the Campus Ambassador can work with the administration on proposing a Fedora computer lab or something similar (more of an Ambassadors task than a Marketing task).

Hi, sorry for jumping in without following up the previous discussions.

Overall, I am +1 for this idea since it helps identify our user bases in groups (organizations, schools, companies). It can be more than stats too. Hopefully it provides incentives to attract new group users and facilitates communications between them.

About the drafts, for the Affliates page, I think it'll be good to add more WIIFM points. For example, to show support for Fedora and FOSS in general, to make their contributions officially recognized, to learn from experiences from peer organizations, etc.

About the badge, I'm not sure how the badge awarding process will work (for groups)? Maybe it will be awarded to the current coordinators from each group? It seems good since it encourages them to join FAS if they have not. But we need to consider the "handover" from old coordinators to new ones.

About the information to include, I'd suggest to add an (optional) image as a showcase/proof. One image is worth a thousand words!

I prefer the approval process is lightweight. Say a wiki page for submissions, and a few dedicated moderators review them and move the information to an "official" wiki page. The latter page is thus not be edited by others.

Finally, I kinda doubt "Affliates" the most right word in such context... Is there a better way to say "Non-individual" users?

Regards,

Alick

IMHO there's the risk of having a nonsense wiki structure is real. That's a project we could consider as Ambassador task before a Mktg task.

Please consider that mktg cannot keep contacts with the several components of affiliates; affiliates must be "mentored" (not the right word, maybe) first by ambassador an then having a preferential channel with marketing.

Also, can we consider to have a website such like www.fedoraaffiliates.fp.o (or similar), or do we manage them in hubs? Do we consider to create a FAS group "affiliates" if doesn't exists yet?

Affiliates in the whole world could be really too much and if we don't manage them very well from the beginning we'll get chaos very soon.

I think we need a mktg member to coordinate ambassadors tasks about affiliates.

Hi all,

On the Marketing list, Jared Smith (@jsmith) also shared Alick's concern about the name. I proposed a few other alternatives, and I'm going to copy my email to the list here to keep it all in an easily referable place. We can also cover this in today's Marketing meeting.

I think the name is a valid concern. An alternative that immediately comes to mind is "Friends of Fedora", but I'm not sure if that's too cliché or if it's been used in the past. It might also make sense to do this to tie it into our Four Foundations too.

Some other alternative names could be...

  • Partners (maybe the same problem)
  • #FedoraLive (or something similar, insinuating Fedora being "live" in the field)
  • #WeAreFedora (taking from #WeAreRedHat a little, empowering people / organizations using Fedora)

Just a few ideas. Let me know if any of these sound better!

Discussed in 2016-05-25 meeting.

Replying to [comment:4 alick]:

Hi, sorry for jumping in without following up the previous discussions.

No worries, thanks for adding feedback to the discussion here in the ticket.

About the drafts, for the Affliates page, I think it'll be good to add more WIIFM points. For example, to show support for Fedora and FOSS in general, to make their contributions officially recognized, to learn from experiences from peer organizations, etc.

I think this is a good idea as well. Is having special mentions and acknowledgements at something like Flock (and possibly regional FUDCons, where relevant) useful? That might be one avenue to pursue too. I think tying it into a network of support and recognition for contributions is a good idea as well.

About the badge, I'm not sure how the badge awarding process will work (for groups)? Maybe it will be awarded to the current coordinators from each group? It seems good since it encourages them to join FAS if they have not. But we need to consider the "handover" from old coordinators to new ones.

For badges, we could create a FAS group that would be able to handle this. I suppose the question is where a "company" or "organization" FAS is the recommended approach or if we want contributors associated with the entity (e.g. school system administrators in a Fedora school) to receive the badge based on their own affiliation as well.

About the information to include, I'd suggest to add an (optional) image as a showcase/proof. One image is worth a thousand words!

I prefer the approval process is lightweight. Say a wiki page for submissions, and a few dedicated moderators review them and move the information to an "official" wiki page. The latter page is thus not be edited by others.

I'm thinking a dedicated "portal" for this might even be a good idea, either on getfedora.org (which may not be the appropriate place) or something like affiliates.fedoraproject.org. This would require syncing up with the Websites team and we should avoid doing that until farther along in this proposal. But long-term, I'm thinking that's best.

Finally, I kinda doubt "Affliates" the most right word in such context... Is there a better way to say "Non-individual" users?

See some of my above comments about alternate names. I'm particular to "Friends of Fedora".

Replying to [comment:5 mailga]:

IMHO there's the risk of having a nonsense wiki structure is real. That's a project we could consider as Ambassador task before a Mktg task.

Please consider that mktg cannot keep contacts with the several components of affiliates; affiliates must be "mentored" (not the right word, maybe) first by ambassador an then having a preferential channel with marketing.

Affiliates in the whole world could be really too much and if we don't manage them very well from the beginning we'll get chaos very soon.

I think we need a mktg member to coordinate ambassadors tasks about affiliates.

This is where part of our discussion in the meeting led to. Here's some of the ideas from the meeting.

Ideas for affiliate program

  • Having this as a shared responsibility between Marketing and Ambassadors might be a good idea.
  • A potential affiliate could get in touch with an Ambassador (or vice versa) and the Ambassador can come to Marketing with the affiliate request.
  • An individual in Marketing / Ambassadors can "sponsor" a request based on previous relationships (example used in meeting is jflory7 with Rochester Institute of Technology in NYS (as a student), or similar type of idea).

Also, can we consider to have a website such like www.fedoraaffiliates.fp.o (or similar), or do we manage them in hubs? Do we consider to create a FAS group "affiliates" if doesn't exists yet?

Alternatively to the above suggestion, Hubs may be the ideal place to integrate this with.

Replying to [comment:7 jflory7]:

Replying to [comment:4 alick]:

Finally, I kinda doubt "Affliates" the most right word in such context... Is there a better way to say "Non-individual" users?

See some of my above comments about alternate names. I'm particular to "Friends of Fedora".

I like that one also, fwiw.

Milestone period ended

With the release of Fedora 24 yesterday, the Fedora 23 release cycle officially "ended". This ticket was marked for completion in F23, but will likely need another cycle to complete. Modifying the milestone to reflect this.

Removing this from the meeting agenda until a proposal is created - no reason to have it on the agenda until there's something to talk about. I'm going to try working on getting one out.

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@bt0dotninja Any news regarding this issue?

the main idea now is retake this ticket with a different approach, instead of a full list of "Friends of Fedora" We can start a magazine series (inspirited in HDYF) for organizations using Fedora.

at this time I identified 3 potential "first article" organizations:

The next step:

  1. Generate a list of questions (maybe two or three oriented to distinct targets as business, activism, research, education,etc)

+1 I think this is a great rethink

My follow on the next step commented by @bt0dotninja:

For Business

  1. Since when are you using Fedora?
  2. How has been the experience?
  3. How many computers you have installed with Fedora?
  4. What should we improve in Fedora?

For Schools/Colleges

  1. Since when are you using Fedora?
  2. Is the use of Fedora required from the Directive Board of the School?
  3. How many computers you have installed with Fedora?
  4. How has been the experience?

WDYT?

Closing as not possible

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- Issue status updated to: Closed (was: Open)

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