#60 Using Fedora Server to build a minimal desktop
Opened 6 months ago by rlengland. Modified 8 days ago

Excerpt from the proposal thread:
I think the angle would be that starting from Fedora Server is pretty much akin to starting from the Arch ISO, whilst the Workstation (Gnome) is more like Manjaro etc. You install Fedora Server, then configre Xorg, then configure keyboard, Touchpad/mouse, ALSA, arandr etc. Then get yourself a Window Manager (I’ve been through most of them too!) and my terminal emulator of choice is usually uRXVT or Alacritty, although Kitty looks promising and I may give that a try.

Rather than a line by line set of instructions, I think the broad brush strokes are more important, together with hints and gotchas. Plus info sources, problem solving and maybe my reasons for WM over DE.

https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/self-introduction-and-article-proposal-i-use-fedora-server-actually/27872


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6 months ago

Originally assigned to Neil Connolly *nekon

Hi Richard

Further to our earlier message, if this is available it would be on my list.

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4 months ago

@glaringgibbon I've assigned this article to you. Also #65 and #34. But don't overstretch yourself. I would suggest concentrating on one at a time. Quality over quantity, eh? :smile:

When you have started on this article (or any other) please let us know by leaving a comment on that ticket and we'll move it to the in-progress state.

When you have something ready for us to review leave a preview link in the comments and we will take a look at it.

Thanks for volunteering!

@rlengland Thanks for the opportunities, very much appreciated.

Has any work been done on this that would serve as a starter for 10?

I thought that this might be the one I'd start with but I'm not sure if that fits with any priorities you may have.

Is it worth my time contacting the originator, nekon, to see if he has any notes that may help, or shall I just start from scratch.

I've had a read through the discussion, and it more or less confirmed my thinking of how to approach it in general.

1) install base
2) add packages required for ANY DE (X/Wayland and so on)
3) add packages for specific DE (DM, WM, File manager, etc)

Is it OK to contact the proposer to see if he has any useful info to start from? That might speed things up a wee bit.

@glaringgibbon There was previous work done on this topic by @nekon which can be seen here:
https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=33868&preview=true

We have it in the "stalled" category so I would contact Neil Connolly in this discussion thread and see if he minds if you take it over from him. It was last modified in June of 2021

@glaringgibbon There was previous work done on this topic by @nekon which can be seen here:
https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=33868&preview=true

We have it in the "stalled" category so I would contact Neil Connolly in this discussion thread and see if he minds if you take it over from him. It was last modified in June of 2021

Hi Richard

I had a read of the docs you linked over the weekend.

The link to nekon's earlier work doesn't give me anything. In the WP dashboard all other posts have a View link underneath. There isn't one for that article.

I'm not a massive fan of WP tbf. I'd prefer to draft outside of it and copypasta it in. I also noticed in some threads the difficulties you guys must face in keeping yourselves in the loop with what has/hasn't been done etc. It must be like herding cats at times!

I thought it might be an idea to use git to keep track of the articles prior to submitting a final draft. You guys wouldn't have to chase me for updates, you can check up when you feel like it. You can also "pre-edit" the article if I'm going off course or contravening guidelines or whatever.

https://github.com/glaringgibbon/fedora-magazine

Let me know if this is acceptable when you get time.

I've made a start on this issue already, not a draft article but notes, outlines and so on.

I'm no photoshop/gimp expert but I was wondering if something like this

https://tenor.com/view/i-use-arch-btw-use-arch-linux-fedora-gif-23272370

might be quite amusing. Not that gif specifically but something in that area.

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4 months ago

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4 months ago

The link to nekon's earlier work doesn't give me anything. In the WP dashboard all other posts have a View link underneath. There isn't one for that article.

Could you not see the article that nekon has worked on at this preview link? I believe the "view" link only appears once the article has been published. ( @glb can correct me if I'm wrong).

I'm not a massive fan of WP tbf. I'd prefer to draft outside of it and copypasta it in. I also noticed in some threads the difficulties you guys must face in keeping yourselves in the loop with what has/hasn't been done etc. It must be like herding cats at times!

WP is not the favourite for some folks but it is the platform we publish with. I find that the coordination task in most editing I've done to sometimes be time consuming.

I thought it might be an idea to use git to keep track of the articles prior to submitting a final draft. You guys wouldn't have to chase me for updates, you can check up when you feel like it. You can also "pre-edit" the article if I'm going off course or contravening guidelines or whatever.

As editors, we don't mind what tool you use for composition as long as the final copy is available in WP. There usually isn't much in the way of pre-editing that occurs but if you have questions having the article up-to-date in WP will allow us to see it in close to the form it will appear in. To keep things consistent for the editors I don't think we want to attempt to add another tool in the stack for us to keep track of. We used WP for publishing and Pagure to track each article and comments concerning them.

I'm no photoshop/gimp expert but I was wondering if something like this
https://tenor.com/view/i-use-arch-btw-use-arch-linux-fedora-gif-23272370
might be quite amusing. Not that gif specifically but something in that area.

I don't know if we can use a dynamic image like that for the feature image (or if you can add that to WP.) I've never tried. Perhaps @glb can comment on that.

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4 months ago

I don't know if we can use a dynamic image like that for the feature image (or if you can add that to WP.) I've never tried. Perhaps @glb can comment on that.

We should really stick with jpg for the cover image to be sure that it works across all the social media and news platforms that the image will be cross-posted to. Within the article, however, other formats are fine. Maybe you could tip your hat at the end of the article?

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4 months ago

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4 months ago

@glaringgibbon:

I see that you have plans to reference RPM Fusion in this article.

Tune your DNF, add Fusion Repositories & how to install a third party RPM

Fedora Magazine has just been asked by Red Hat not to promote RPM Fusion anymore. I hope this will not be too much of a problem for your article.

@glaringgibbon: any status update for this article?

@glaringgibbon: any update on the status of this article?

@glaringgibbon There has been some confusion about who should be working on this article and I apologize for messages aimed at you. The card is assigned to @nekon (Neil Connolly) as I believe it should be.

So I will now address the last few questions to Neil. Do you have an update on the status of this article?

For reasons I didnt have time to investigate fully, I failed miserably to get a working Minimal Install with the applications I wanted to install. Biggest problem was getting Pipewire working.

I had to install Gnome DE version because I had to get stuff done and then it totally lost impetus. I did get Pipewire working as an additional DE in GDM, but like I said, time pressures took over.

I also felt that the article was over long and "unweildy" and really needed to dramatically reduce the introduction.

If someone else wants to take this on, I am quite happy to defer, although F36 has made me think I need to try again, maybe over this weekend.

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If someone else wants to do this then they are welcome to take it on.

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