#4 Fedora Kinoite (KDE Silverblue)
Closed: Fixed 2 years ago by siosm. Opened 3 years ago by ngompa.

There's a lot of work going on to make an immutable Linux desktop platform right now. Within Fedora, this has largely been oriented around Fedora Silverblue, a variant of Fedora using GNOME to offer a desktop experience on top of the technology base of Fedora CoreOS (RPM-OSTree).

There was some effort by @siosm to build a KDE variant as Fedora Kinoite, and I think we should look at making it an official non-blocking deliverable of the KDE SIG in the same way Silverblue is for the Workstation WG.

The configuration already exists, we should figure out what we want this to look like and make it something we offer to people.


I currently maintain unofficial builds for Kinoite and it would be awesome if we could make it official!

There might be some changes required in the Silverblue build pipeline or we might have to create a new pipeline to make this work. I am not very familiar with how Silverblue builds are done.

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3 years ago

This sounds very interesting. Once the technical hurdles are resolved, it could make sense to have some kind of meeting to see what new opportunities this would bring. What do you think?

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3 years ago

Per the KDE SIG meeting today, our long-term goal here is to have Kinoite as an Edition similar to Silverblue.

The steps we need to get there:

  1. Plasma Discover support for OS updates for RPM-OSTree
  2. Simplifying the package set between KDE Spin and Kinoite to reduce the delta
  3. Adding Kinoite to the compose pipeline for Fedora releases and Rawhide

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3 years ago

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3 years ago

To note, there's a Season of KDE 2021 idea for implementing an RPM-OSTree backend for Plasma Discover. It looks like @apol and @siosm will co-mentor anyone interested in doing this as part of SoK. Alternatively, we can do this as a Fedora GSoC 2021 item with an interested student.

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3 years ago

We've discussed this today and decided to start the process to get this landing for Fedora 35. This is contingent on getting a compose pipeline for it and getting Discover working for RPM-OSTree system updates.

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- Issue untagged with: meeting
- Issue assigned to siosm
- Issue set to the milestone: Fedora 35 (was: Future Release)

3 years ago

Trademark request filed with the Council: Fedora-Council/tickets#344

Logo request filed with Design Team: design#710

Thanks to @michaeltunnell, I found out that "Kinoite" is a wonderful pun for us, as in Japanese "木のいて" (pronounced as KEY-no-EE-tay), it means "There is a tree". As this is based on RPM-OSTree, this works out quite well!

Now I'm not sure which pronunciation I want. :laughing:

Like it too! Maybe we don't have to choose and can keep both :smile:

If it's of any help, the japanese pronunciation should be much more natural to latin-based languages speakers.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Fedora_Kinoite > Did a lot of updates for the change request which should be good for review and submission.

We now have official Fedora Kinoite Rawhide builds! (untested for now, will do that later :smile:).

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- Issue untagged with: experience, flatpak, installation
- Issue tagged with: kinoite

2 years ago

This is now shipping as part of the beta, so I think we can close this. :100:

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- Issue close_status updated to: Fixed
- Issue set to the milestone: Fedora Linux 35 (was: Fedora 35)
- Issue status updated to: Closed (was: Open)

2 years ago

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- Issue untagged with: kinoite

2 years ago

Issue status updated to: Open (was: Closed)

2 years ago

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- Issue tagged with: kinoite

2 years ago

Metadata Update from @siosm:
- Issue close_status updated to: Fixed
- Issue status updated to: Closed (was: Open)

2 years ago

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