#12042 Own post to python-devel mailing list not received
Closed: Insufficient data a month ago by kevin. Opened 2 months ago by gui1ty.

Yesterday, I noticed that I did not receive my own posting to the python-devel list, though I have Receive own postings enabled globally in mailman settings.

@zlopez already checked that the mail was relayed to bastion. Seeing that there was a reply to my post, seems to indicate at least some mails were delivered.

In order to determine if I need to contact my mail provider, I'd like get confirmation that the mail was indeed sent out or if any errors occurred attempting delivery.

I realize this may be a bit involved. Please consider it low priority. It only happened once so far. But I haven't been very active on the mailing lists recently.


Metadata Update from @zlopez:
- Issue priority set to: Waiting on Assignee (was: Needs Review)
- Issue tagged with: Needs investigation, low-gain, ops

2 months ago

Hmm...

Extending the issue a bit to mail delivery in general, I should have received notification for this comment in Pagure. But it hasn't yet arrived. I did receive notification for the comments pre-dating it.

Extending the issue a bit to mail delivery in general, I should have received notification for this comment in Pagure. But it hasn't yet arrived. I did receive notification for the comments pre-dating it.

That mail has now arrived.

My mail to the python-devel list is still awol.

Can you share the message-id of the email? Thats the best way for us to track it via logs...

Yeah, sure.

Message-ID: 98c0c4fb-dcda-419b-8458-3cab5b0d1d1c@penguinpee.nl
Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2024 22:05:00 +0200
In-Reply-To: 59d01d38-2ed4-47cb-9124-babbee99794c@fedoraproject.org

Though, I'm not entirely sure that helps. Since messages from mailman get their own ID in the form of the In-Reply-To shown above.
The time in the date is local, UTC+2, just to avoid confusion.

I was looking at the bastion log today and found this:

Jul  7 20:05:20 bastion01 opendkim[809]: 6ED772060244: no signing table match for 'lists@penguinpee.nl'

Not sure if this is the issue, but it corresponds with the time of sending.

Is that a glitch? Depending on the kind of glitch, should it lead to mails being dropped? E.g. in case of network timeouts, shouldn't the MTA try again after some delay?

@gui1ty This message is showing multiple times, it probably reached the amount of retries.

I see. Does the failed step involve anything outside infrastructure, e.g. DNS queries on my domain? In other words, is there something I need to check / have checked? I have a general idea of what DKIM is, but no experience with implementation on the MTA level.

Didn't saw anything in the postfix log, just the message I shared earlier.

Maybe @kevin will know more about that.

It's now been a while and logs are harder to dig up. ;(

Are you still seeing this behavior? Or was it only that one message that you know of?

I believe I haven't sent a message to python-devel since. Feel free to close. I can always reopen or file a new ticket, should I notice again.

Thanks and sorry we didn't get to the bottom of it. ;(

Metadata Update from @kevin:
- Issue close_status updated to: Insufficient data
- Issue status updated to: Closed (was: Open)

a month ago

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