#420 RFE: Establish regular FAmSCo presence in IRC channel, e.g. #fedora-famsco
Closed: Wontfix 5 years ago Opened 5 years ago by jflory7.

This ticket is part of a two-part series to improve visibility of FAmSCo's work and better include the wider Ambassador community with those representing us in FAmSCo.

Summary

FAmSCo should actively adopt and maintain a presence in an IRC channel for their own discussions to happen outside of meeting time, but also provide an opportunity for community members to engage with FAmSCo members (e.g. #fedora-famsco).

Analysis

As some background to why I am filing this ticket (and the other), since becoming an Ambassador, I have always felt disconnected from FAmSCo outside of the election period. I read candidate interviews and view tickets, and then it becomes difficult for me to follow along if I am not able to make the meeting times. If I want to follow mailing list discussion, I have to manually check the mailing list archives. If I want to reach a FAmSCo member outside of a meeting time, I will have to find them across various IRC channels. The purpose of this request is to help add an important level of transparency and openness to FAmSCo so Ambassadors are better able to follow what is being discussed, but also to improve communication with our leadership.

I think there is already a registered #fedora-famsco channel (since ChanServ and zodbot are inside), but I am the only human there. It shouldn't be difficult to regain OP permissions to update things like the channel topic, URL, and other things. I also think current FAmSCo members should have +Vv (i.e. voice) in the channel to clearly mark FAmSCo members.

In addition to just having the channel, all members should actively try to maintain a presence there whenever they are in IRC. This provides a (somewhat) synchronous place for community members to ask questions to FAmSCo members and also better promotes them as a resource for the community. I would also encourage FAmSCo-related discussions to happen there outside of meeting times too.

Ideally, this would fit a similar role as the #fedora-council IRC channel exists.


Yes this is indeed something I looked at last week (no joke), and I also found this channel but logged out almost immediately. On the other side, also FESCo doesn't have a dedicate IRC channel. Furthermore FAmSCo members can be found in #fedora-ambassadors, where all people can read what's going on. So I am really not sure if this is a good idea or if it just adds a channel to the numerous we already have.

I joined #fedora-famsco. We can make a test how many people of us would be there and then see if we should bring that further.

I don't see much of a benefit having a separated IRC channel. I rather prefer FAmSCo members been in #fedora-ambassadors where everyone can talk to each other and exchange ideas, requests, etc.
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I'm not against to make a test as robyduck proposes though, just I don't see it much use.

I don't have a clear opinion about this. I'm ok with robyduck thought but in the other hand in the ambassadors channel there could be too much noise.

Thanks.

Gabri

Replying to [comment:1 robyduck]:

Yes this is indeed something I looked at last week (no joke), and I also found this channel but logged out almost immediately. On the other side, also FESCo doesn't have a dedicate IRC channel. Furthermore FAmSCo members can be found in #fedora-ambassadors, where all people can read what's going on. So I am really not sure if this is a good idea or if it just adds a channel to the numerous we already have.

I joined #fedora-famsco. We can make a test how many people of us would be there and then see if we should bring that further.

I agree with robyduck, I don't think that we need a dedicated IRC channel for FAmSCo. Our role is connected with ambassadors so why to have a separated channel when we can have only one.

Metadata Update from @robyduck:
- Issue close_status updated to: None
- Issue private status set to: False (was: True)

5 years ago

Not sure about others but my thoughts are these:
Pros:

  • people can ask FAmSCo related things without needs to do that in the huge ambassador channel
  • FAmSCo members have a place where they can talk about internal stuff or change short opinions on some topics (i.e. Trac migration)
  • could be channel where to continue, if wanted, some details we discussed in the meeting

Cons:

  • Yet another channel which could be a duplicate of the ambassadors channel
  • If we discuss things there we cannot trac it like a meeting or ML
  • the channel will be a silent one anyway

Anyone has other points to add? If nobody has a strong opinion on it let's just do it? Or do a survey on social media?

Metadata Update from @jflory7:
- Issue priority set to: 30
- Issue set to the milestone: Fedora 26
- Issue tagged with: policy

5 years ago

Metadata Update from @jflory7:
- Issue tagged with: meeting

5 years ago

I have been in #fedora-ambassadors for weeks, no messages have been sent from anyone.
Creating another channel would be just another channel with no activity.
Also we will not trac anything we discuss there.

Metadata Update from @robyduck:
- Issue close_status updated to: Wontfix
- Issue status updated to: Closed (was: Open)

5 years ago

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