#560 Update button design
Closed: Fixed 3 years ago Opened 3 years ago by williamjmorenor.

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Hello, the latam ambassadors commity is planning to do a regional ticket for swag for 2108 (we will try to get a better price buying the swag for a hole year), and we want to ask for a update to the Fedora Button Desing

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Another ideam not sure it can work for small buttons, but can work but mediun sized ones.

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@williamjmorenor what issues do you have with the current standard button design?

Also - the heart, rainbow, and edition mockups above don't follow our logo usage guidelines so please don't use these designs.

I like the idea of the libertad button; it would be nice to work the logo into it though right?

What size are you intending to have the buttons created at? That will have an impact on the design and how small the text can go and how many design objects would make sense in it. The standard button design was created for 3" x 3" buttons.

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@williamjmorenor what issues do you have with the current standard button
design?

This make sound weird, but for the latam swag should be nice to have a
desing in Spanish,

I like the idea of the libertad button; it would be nice to work the logo
into it though right?

Yes, I like the idea too.

What size are you intending to have the buttons created at? That will have
an impact on the design and how small the text can go and how many design
objects would make sense in it. The standard button design was created for
3" x 3" buttons.
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From the swag latam page:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Swag_latam#Total_quantities_and_price

Small, Medium and Large Buttons, I am not sure what those mean in inches or
cents :( , but it we want to have buttons in 3 different sizes should be
good to have at less two diferent desings this is the reason of this ticket.

The relevant ticket have been aprovede 6ht months ago (
https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/406), but we are in the end
of November and do not have any swag already, so I want to put the ball in
movement to get the swag done for the next year, I am sorry if I am making
a lot of noise :(

@williamjmorenor ah wonderful, makes complete sense! and you're not making a lot of noise, it's just important from a design perspective to get as much of the context around the request as we can to get you the most workable design :) the mockups you've both sent help with that understanding!

Let's think about this at the messaging level - if you're going to do 3 different sizes, let's do 3 different designs.

1 - let's definitely do some form of "Elije libertad, elije Fedora" - this is a key Fedora message for anybody wondering what Fedora is all about, right?

2 - would a translation of "freedom, friends, features, first" be a good design? this design would be targeted at contributors and potential contributors to understand how we operate.

3 - something with the Fedora logo tying it to LATAM. What if we used a map image of LATAM? (is the one on fedoracommunity.org an ok one to use from your perspective?) we could overlay the Fedora logo on it somehow. this design's goal would be show the strength of Fedora's LATAM community.

What do you think?

We could do each one in one of the sizes; I don't know what size should go to which idea though. What do you think about those ideas for concepts?

(@searchsam - would you like to take lead on creating mockups for these? for the libertad one - the colors seem a bit off? I would double-check them. It would be nice to get the Fedora logo into it too somehow. Otherwise this is a strong design as is.)

Let's think about this at the messaging level - if you're going to do 3
different sizes, let's do 3 different designs.

1 - let's definitely do some form of "Elije libertad, elije Fedora" - this
is a key Fedora message for anybody wondering what Fedora is all about,
right?

2 - would a translation of "freedom, friends, features, first" be a good
design? this design would be targeted at contributors and potential
contributors to understand how we operate.

3 - something with the Fedora logo tying it to LATAM. What if we used a
map image of LATAM? (is the one on fedoracommunity.org an ok one to use
from your perspective?) we could overlay the Fedora logo on it somehow.
this design's goal would be show the strength of Fedora's LATAM community.

What do you think?

It does sound awesome!

Sir, the correct imperative form of the Spanish verb "elegir" is "elige", whereas "elije" comes from "elijar", another, completely different verb.

Yours sincerely,
Eduardo

I think that the original art work for buttons do not stand much. The blue background makes low contrast. I will like it better with white background. But it is a personal opinion and I will stick with the decision that results. I have used the original artwork in the past. I ordered 1000 buttons with 2" diameter for FUDcon Cuzco 2013 and from there it was distributed among latam ambassadors. Those are gone, and we need more.

I like the freedom (libertad) design. Please take into account the spelling correction made by Eduardo. The other two makes me uncomfortable the cropping of the borders to the round shape of the logo. Not commenting on Logo use guideline, as it has been already reviewed.

( @searchsam - would you like to take lead on creating mockups for these? for the libertad one - the colors seem a bit off? I would double-check them. It would be nice to get the Fedora logo into it too somehow. Otherwise this is a strong design as is.)

I would like to take charge of the model for the design of freedom. I'm going to work better on the design, the proposals I put in before was a quick job.

Most of the button I have always seen in latam are 2.25" , also some 1" ones.

IMG_20171129_201240.jpg

I think we can work in:

Small Buttons (1"): Fedora logo over a white background without letters.
Medium Buttons (2.25"): The "elige libertad" artwork.
Big Buttons (3"): The Spanish version of current artwork.

Sound good @searchsam ?

Most of the button I have always seen in latam are 2.25" , also some 1" ones.

I think we can work in:
Small Buttons (1"): Fedora logo over a white background without letters.
Medium Buttons (2.25"): The "elige libertad" artwork.
Big Buttons (3"): The Spanish version of current artwork.
Sound good @searchsam ?

It's fine for me, but for the big ones it would be good to take @duffy suggestion and make a design related to latam, or have two designs, the one that already exists and one design related to latam.

strange blue seems not from the fedora palette

which blue do you mean? In the 3" proposal?

Hello!
I'm new here and I want to join in Fedora design team
How can I claim a ticket and how do I submit my designs?
Thank you

  1. its not nice to capture a ticket offtopic
  2. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join_the_Design_Team
  3. you cant claim a ticket, but you can join the IRC and ask to get it assigned or you doing it by mail, see the join pages ;)

Samuel volvimos a poner elegir con "j" la traducci=C3=B3n del sitio web est=
a mal
:(

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Enviado desde mi m=C3=B3vil, disculpe la brevedad
William

Samuel volvimos a poner elegir con "j" la traduccion del sitio web esta
mal
:(

This may seem weird, but the right conjugation forms are:
Eligir, Elige, Elija
Should we kept "elige" in the buttons and web sites? ... and therefore avoid "elija" that is kind of impersonal and distant?

@searchsam beautiful designs! I am so impressed!

Some suggestions :)

  • for the 1" - instead of having 2 of the 3 be white, why not make the background of this one Fedora blue, to help it pop and make the set of 3 more colorful?

  • the curved "getfedora.org" on the 2.5" button is too difficult to read. I think probably it should just be written straight.

  • I love the design in 3", but there just isn't enough contrast between the Fedora logo and the pattern in the background to make the fedora logo readable. It kind of hurts my eyes :( Can you try lowering the brightness of the map pattern / using a darker grey for the pattern?

Metadata Update from @duffy:
- Issue assigned to searchsam
- Issue tagged with: triaged

3 years ago

@searchsam awesome work! much improved! The only suggestion I have left :) the 'whatcanidoforfedora.org' is competing a lot with the fedora latam logo and it's in its clearspace. I'd either drop it or maybe make it a darker grey so there's less contrast, and nudge the fedora latam logo to the right a bit so i has more breathing space.

2017-12-13 14:34 GMT-06:00 M=C3=A1ir=C3=ADn Duffy pagure@pagure.io:

duffy added a new comment to an issue you are following:
@searchsam awesome work! much improved! The only suggestion I have left := ) the 'whatcanidoforfedora.org' is competing a lot with the fedora latam logo and it's in its clearspace. I'd either drop it or maybe make it a darker grey so there's less contrast, and nudge the fedora latam logo to the right a bit so i has more breathing space.

@searchsam also please do not forget a version of the 2.25" button in pt-Br
for Brazil

@searchsam please do not take care of my last comment, looks like this buttons will be used only for Nicaragua swag production.

@duffy do you have any comment about the last review of the buttons? Fiscal
year it is closing soon and we need to allocate the budget of the buttons
production.

The 1" and 3" look great. The 2.5", the right one should be used, except the text wrapped around the top is distorted. @searchsam can you fix the text on the 2.5" so it's centered and not distorted?

Thanks a lot @duffy :)

@itamar are you OK with the 1" and 3" buttons for Brazil? Do you want a
version in portuguese of the 2.5" button or you want the original blue
button for brazil, price should not a issue since Brazil is asking for 1K
units of each one.

https://pagure.io/design/issue/560

@ williamjmorenor hey do you have these ordered or need more assistance?

2018-01-08 6:12 GMT-06:00 M=C3=A1ir=C3=ADn Duffy pagure@pagure.io:

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@ williamjmorenor hey do you have these ordered or need more assistance?

I think those buttons have been not ordered yet but I need to confirm with
@bex firts.

@williamjmorenor @bex any updates on this? came up in triage today

I am expecting a proof request on the 1" and 2.25" buttons today. I will ping @duffy when this comes in.

The larger buttons are still in progress and not yet at the proof stage.

large buttons now in progress, waiting on proof.

@bex looks fantastic! hoping the black one comes out as good!

@bex @duffy if I may raise a concern - the grey pattern on the big button is just 4% Black. It's barely visible on the screen, and might just completely disappear on print. Especially if the badge is glossy.

The 1" and 2.25" buttons are part of an order that contains the sticket set in #563. I'll release this when those are approved.

Still waiting on larger button proof. Do we want to modify that artwork?

They looks awesome!

William Moreno Reyes
http://about.me/williamjmorenor

2018-02-13 5:54 GMT-06:00 Brian Exelbierd pagure@pagure.io:

bex added a new comment to an issue you are following:
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@duffy @williamjmorenor proofs for 1" and 2.25" buttons below.

![1button.png](/design/issue/raw/files/c56c21c896577440268f3e2cbd1c29
88035c30225a3eabcad27fbf6baddc3de3-1button.png)
![2.25_button.png](/design/issue/raw/files/f3558f36534f55aee12f595a19bd4986634642c8e9ef4ec1b24a2652042f
0bbc-2.25_button.png)

``

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@itamarjp the big and small buttons are lanaguage agnostic, but the mediun sized one is is spanich and may not work for Brazil, is it fine to send to brazil only small and big buttons?

@bex do still can order a diferent desing for the mediun sized buttton for brazil?

@williamjmorenor we can order different buttons when designs are approved. It may or may not happen in this FY.

2018-02-13 11:30 GMT-06:00 Brian Exelbierd pagure@pagure.io:

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@williamjmorenor we can order different buttons when designs are approved. It may or may not happen in this FY.

This button artwork have been aproved along time ago:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_collateral?rd=Artwork/MarketingCollateral#Buttons

I think brazil can get those ones better than the current version in
spanish.

@williamjmorenor Please open a new design ticket, or amend this one. We need the button at the right size (either 1" or 2.25") and in Brazilian Portuguese. I don't see that on this page.

the white lines are not par of the desing, it was jus a "note" to remember the safe place the artwork, can you please ask the vendor to adjust the proof to only the area inside the white lines?

Thanks a lot in advance.

requested a new proof/update

I received an updated 3" button proof. I have asked them to comment on the likelihood of the light background being visible. Other than that, how is this proof?

Fedora dark blue is Pantone 541, the word Fedora should be light blue - Pantone 2935. TM signs should be probably the same color.

@mleonova do you mean that the dark blue portion of hte fedora logo is Pantone 541 and that the word Fedora should be light blue - Pantone 2935. TM signs should be Pantone 2935 as well?

I want to get this right when I send the response to the proof.

@mleonova do you mean that the dark blue portion of hte fedora logo is Pantone 541 and that the word Fedora should be light blue - Pantone 2935.

Yes

TM signs should be Pantone 2935 as well?

Should be white (as they are on black background)

I want to get this right when I send the response to the proof.

@mleonova this leads me to believe that we should update the artwork. Is this correct?

@mleonova this leads me to believe that we should update the artwork. Is this correct?

I believe so.

@mleonova this leads me to believe that we should update the artwork. Is this correct?

I believe so.

@mleonova @duffy @searchsam can one of you all reproduce the artwork so I can send it off for new proofs?

In the artwork that @searchsam provided Fedora is written in the right color, did the printer change it?
So I just changed TM to white:

Per Staples' art team, "Per the production art team: The gray on black is very dark. If they would like us to, we could lighten up the gray in the background. Let me know if you are okay with us making a change, and possibly a PMS color?"

Do we want to lighten this last sample from @mleonova and then resend it with PMS colors?

@bex we can absolutely do that! Can they specify how much lighter? I don't yet have the Pantone guide, so I can only approximately choose pantone by eye...

Accordance #575, in which @mleonova suggested darken the background pattern to black at 7%, I also did in the Spanish version.

2.5inch_button_latam.svg

@bex so can you actually see the pattern now? I think it's better - subtle, but more visible. Did the print company say anything about the contrast?

@bex so can you actually see the pattern now? I think it's better - subtle, but more visible. Did the print company say anything about the contrast?

They have not said anything. I can ask again, but assuming either yes or no answer - is this good to go?

Per the comments in https://pagure.io/design/issue/575 I am approving the proof/ordering the white button. This leaves only the large black button remaining. I called that vendor to move their response along.

The vendor sent this big button proof. They lightened the background for clarity and put the colors below. Can we accept this?

big-button-final-proof.pdf

Haha, it's called final :) They made Fedora dark blue again: "the word Fedora should be light blue - Pantone 2935".
Just fix that and we'll be good to go.

I added named the file "final" hoping it would be.

I'll submit the request for a new proof.

Moving forward with sticker mule for this 2.25" button. I have cancelled the Staples process.

@bex omg finally! =) Looks good!

@mleonova @williamjmorenor I am going to push "accept" on this proof. I believe this closes the last of the button designs.

I strongly encourage us to find a place to store these that is accessible and not the wiki.

Here is a pull request to send those files to the desingassets repo. Said that looks like handle a big repo with big files like this is not a easy task for pagure in the current state, I was not hable to push commits but this can a connectivity issus from my side:

https://pagure.io/designassets/pull-request/1

The small 1 inch button is very reusable the others two desing are very latam specific.

@williamjmorenor thank you! I usually work with Sparkleshare to add files. If you don't mind, I'll do it that way.

Here is a pull request to send those files to the desingassets repo. Said that looks like handle a big repo with big files like this is not a easy task for pagure in the current state, I was not hable to push commits but this can a connectivity issus from my side:
https://pagure.io/designassets/pull-request/1
The small 1 inch button is very reusable the others two desing are very latam specific.

I put them here: https://pagure.io/designassets/blob/master/f/Buttons

Metadata Update from @mleonova:
- Issue close_status updated to: Fixed
- Issue status updated to: Closed (was: Open)

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