In the Design Team meeting, it was mentioned that a few more details were needed about what this request would consist of.

For the Trac logo, I think a logo as close to the Design Team's logo is preferred, as I think it's best to keep things consistent in terms of the styling of the branding (if that makes sense). So the text for the Trac logo would be "CommOps Team" and it could just have the same logo placement and same font as the Design Team logo.

A comment from Mo with helpful tips for logo and banner design for Fedora groups:
[https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/235#comment:17]

I am uploading a couple ideas. Please tell me if they look good to you and if I got your idea for a logo right. These elements are all, of course, interchangeable, so just tell me what you like.

[[Image(http://i.imgur.com/w2b99Xf.png)]]

first ideas
Commops_logo_vars_1.svg

Wow, these are fantastic, mleonova! I am personally a fan of 3 and 4 (leaning more towards 4). I will shoot an email off to our mailing list to see if we can get some other thoughts on this too. :)

My votes in order of first to last choice:

1. Logo 4
2. Logo 3
3. Logo 1
4. Logo 2

Replying to [comment:5 jflory7]:

Wow, these are fantastic, mleonova! I am personally a fan of 3 and 4 (leaning more towards 4). I will shoot an email off to our mailing list to see if we can get some other thoughts on this too. :)

My votes in order of first to last choice:

1. Logo 4
2. Logo 3
3. Logo 1
4. Logo 2

sounds good ;)

3 -> 1 -> 4 -> 2 first to last choice

My vote is logo 3

I don't love using the Fedora Logo as the "O" in commops because CommOps is already a made-up word, and doesn't need further obfuscation, so I'm -1 on logo1

I do like the alignment of the bubbles all moving in the same direction in logo1, which further strengthens my vote for logo3, and makes me -1 on logo2.

logo4 would be my second choice.

Anything that implies unison, coordination, and direction is good with me. Recursive patterns, tesselation, and other "fill in the gaps" style graphics are very strong concepts. Perhaps we can have 3 sizes of "Fedora Bubbles" inside the Fedora logo outline graphic? Make the main Fedora logo the biggest, and keep it anchored in the corner where it is, then slightly reduce the size of the current bubbles, and add another layer of interlocking smaller bubbles?

Perhaps we can try a version of logo3, but with the full name "Community Operations" as the logo-text? I think they are of Similar length, and would look decent stacked on top of eachother? We may have to remove the word Team though.

This logo concept is very strong mleonova, nice work!

Logo # 3 is the one I like.

Thank you for comments, they are very helpful!
Since everybody seems to agree on logo 3, let's keep working with it. Here I've created some more versions:
a. with different stroke width on the larger bubble
b. with the full name Community Operations
c. with more bubbles of various sizes

Considering these options, visually and thinking in advance about the banner, I prefer variant '''a''', because it's the least busy and crowded. Also the logo name fits nicely into one line and is easy to read. In variant c 7 bubbles inside the main one seem to be a little to many, making it hard to concentrate on the logo as a whole.

What do you think?

[[Image(http://i.imgur.com/PQ9AL3r.png?1)]]

second draft
Commops_logo_vars_2.svg

I agree that (c) seems a little busy with the extra bubbles. I also like the thicker stroke used for the bubble in (a). I actually do like the placement of using the full name "Community Operations" like in variant (b). I think a hybrid of (a) and (b) would look best.

Replying to [comment:11 jflory7]:

I agree that (c) seems a little busy with the extra bubbles. I also like the thicker stroke used for the bubble in (a). I actually do like the placement of using the full name "Community Operations" like in variant (b). I think a hybrid of (a) and (b) would look best.

Ok, let's do that.

[[Image(http://i.imgur.com/1HBRADo.png)]]

attachment
Commops_logo_vars_3.svg

This gets a +1 from me. Let's see what decause thinks, and if he likes it too, then we can make it official!

Replying to [comment:13 jflory7]:

This gets a +1 from me. Let's see what decause thinks, and if he likes it too, then we can make it official!

Def +1 on the thicker stroke. Nice.
Def +1 on the full title/description too.

I suppose that having 4 bubbles could be enough, as it represents the 4 Foundations.

But...

I still wouldn't mind seeing one more iteration with version c, having the 2 layers of bubbles.

Since this is going to be a banner, I don't feel like it is /too/ busy, but if it were going to be logo-sized or smaller, it may get too busy for that.

Perhaps just decreasing the size of the bubbles slightly, and/or adding only 2 more to the mix would be a good middle-ground?

I think multiple sizes imply growth, and heterogeneity, and to an extent diversity also. Organizing can be messy, and it doesn't have to be sterile neat and tidy ;)

That being said, sleek and unified is a very strong aesthetic. I will defer to the wisdom of the collective after one more iteration if we can muster it.

Super duper thank you mleonova, you really rocked on this!

Replying to [comment:14 decause]:

Replying to [comment:13 jflory7]:

This gets a +1 from me. Let's see what decause thinks, and if he likes it too, then we can make it official!

Def +1 on the thicker stroke. Nice.
Def +1 on the full title/description too.

I suppose that having 4 bubbles could be enough, as it represents the 4 Foundations.

But...

I still wouldn't mind seeing one more iteration with version c, having the 2 layers of bubbles.

Since this is going to be a banner, I don't feel like it is /too/ busy, but if it were going to be logo-sized or smaller, it may get too busy for that.

Perhaps just decreasing the size of the bubbles slightly, and/or adding only 2 more to the mix would be a good middle-ground?

I think multiple sizes imply growth, and heterogeneity, and to an extent diversity also. Organizing can be messy, and it doesn't have to be sterile neat and tidy ;)

That being said, sleek and unified is a very strong aesthetic. I will defer to the wisdom of the collective after one more iteration if we can muster it.

Super duper thank you mleonova, you really rocked on this!

Sure, take a look! I understand your reasoning behind having more bubbles in the logo. My biggest concern is the human ability to concentrate on a maximum of maybe 5 elements at once ;) So when it's that many and also a full-length name, in my opinion, it starts to fall apart a little bit.
What do you think?

[[Image(http://i.imgur.com/CZdAskR.png)]]

attachment
Commops_logo_vars_4.svg

From the OP I like 3 and 4. I am not a fan of the five bubble variant. I prefer the full community operations being spelled out as well.

I always think of gears when I think operations, but I do understand the bubbles. Could we either take the three internal bubbles and make them gears or put gear like nubs all around the larger fedora shape?

Replying to [comment:15 mleonova]:

Replying to [comment:14 decause]:

Replying to [comment:13 jflory7]:

This gets a +1 from me. Let's see what decause thinks, and if he likes it too, then we can make it official!

Def +1 on the thicker stroke. Nice.
Def +1 on the full title/description too.

I suppose that having 4 bubbles could be enough, as it represents the 4 Foundations.

But...

I still wouldn't mind seeing one more iteration with version c, having the 2 layers of bubbles.

Since this is going to be a banner, I don't feel like it is /too/ busy, but if it were going to be logo-sized or smaller, it may get too busy for that.

Perhaps just decreasing the size of the bubbles slightly, and/or adding only 2 more to the mix would be a good middle-ground?

I think multiple sizes imply growth, and heterogeneity, and to an extent diversity also. Organizing can be messy, and it doesn't have to be sterile neat and tidy ;)

That being said, sleek and unified is a very strong aesthetic. I will defer to the wisdom of the collective after one more iteration if we can muster it.

Super duper thank you mleonova, you really rocked on this!

Sure, take a look! I understand your reasoning behind having more bubbles in the logo. My biggest concern is the human ability to concentrate on a maximum of maybe 5 elements at once ;) So when it's that many and also a full-length name, in my opinion, it starts to fall apart a little bit.
What do you think?

[[Image(http://i.imgur.com/CZdAskR.png)]]

I'm ready to defer to the wisdom of you and our Design team members. I like them both, for the record, but I can def live with 3 bubbles and full title :)

Excellent work mleonova!

Thank you :)

I also give my +1 to the one you feel is best, mleonova. This is awesome work, thank you so much for helping get this done. :)

Replying to [comment:19 jflory7]:

I also give my +1 to the one you feel is best, mleonova. This is awesome work, thank you so much for helping get this done. :)

Thanks ;) I'll think about it some more and then go on to making the banner.

Replying to [comment:20 mleonova]:

Thanks ;) I'll think about it some more and then go on to making the banner.
Just to follow up on this one, if you were able to make the final copy with the specified dimensions, I think that's all that should be left to getting this image added to our Trac. :)

Ok! Let's just decide on the size and background of the logo. It does have different dimensions from the one you're referencing, so it can be either same width or same height. If you tell me where you intend to use it precisely, I might get a better idea. Also we need to decide on the background color: will it be blue or transparent, because if the latter, small changes are to be made ;)
please take a look at the possibilities here: [http://i.imgur.com/I4SphzD.png]

Replying to [comment:22 mleonova]:

Ok! Let's just decide on the size and background of the logo. It does have different dimensions from the one you're referencing, so it can be either same width or same height. If you tell me where you intend to use it precisely, I might get a better idea. Also we need to decide on the background color: will it be blue or transparent, because if the latter, small changes are to be made ;)
please take a look at the possibilities here: [http://i.imgur.com/I4SphzD.png]
We're intending to use this logo on [https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-commops/ fedorahosted.org/fedora-commops] as our own Trac logo. I don't think we'll be using it anywhere else other than Trac.

I think the transparent background is the best way to go for Trac, since the blue background sticks out a little oddly. Of the ones you linked, I liked the second iteration of the CommOps logo (clear background, filled blue background in bubble).

Okay, I suppose 60 px high should fit in nicely. Attaching both svg and png to the ticket.

[[Image(http://i.imgur.com/u4K4Ekv.png)]]

png
CommOps_wiki_logo.png

svg
CommOps_wiki_logo.svg

Replying to [comment:24 mleonova]:

Okay, I suppose 60 px high should fit in nicely. Attaching both svg and png to the ticket.
Again, awesome job and this looks fantastic! I just added it to the top of [https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-commops/ our Trac]. At this time, I think everything is finished, so I will close the ticket. :)

Thanks again for throwing these together, mleonova! These are awesome and it's great to have our own banner and Trac logo now. Really appreciate your time and effort!

Looks good =) You are very welcome!