#218 Europe edition of Freemedia envelope
Closed: Fixed None Opened 12 years ago by ib54003.

Hey,
we need a European edition of Free Media envelope for the new tool by FranciscoD.
http://dodoincfedora.wordpress.com/2012/02/16/fedora-freemedia-tool-version-0-2alpha/

The problem with the current Templet is that it is too big "13.5 cm x 13.5 cm," but I need max. "12.5 cm x 12.5 cm". Otherwise I have to pay more than 1.45 € for shipping.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:Freemedia-mailer.svgz

I already talked to FranciscoD and he asked me to creat a new ticket.


Geesh! Why am I seeing this just now. I'll take care of this

Replying to [comment:2 twohot]:

Geesh! Why am I seeing this just now. I'll take care of this

Ok, cool ;) !

Was this completed?

or is this one still open?

Taking it again. Sorry, ... no delays this time

Replying to [comment:6 ib54003]:

Nope still open ;)

Hi, Please can you advise on European Standards for the OCR, Return Address, and Clear Zone areas? I think I used US standards for those. I suspect the standard is universal. If you are aware of any specifics for Europe, give me a shout. Otherwise I will default to applying the previous standard irrespective of the changing envelop size.

Replying to [comment:9 twohot]:

Replying to [comment:6 ib54003]:

Nope still open ;)

Hi, Please can you advise on European Standards for the OCR, Return Address, and Clear Zone areas? I think I used US standards for those. I suspect the standard is universal. If you are aware of any specifics for Europe, give me a shout. Otherwise I will default to applying the previous standard irrespective of the changing envelop size.
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Hey twohot,

take a look at [https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/raw-attachment/ticket/218/dp_automationsfaehige_briefsendungen_2013.pdf], just look at the pictures its German :).[[BR]]
I found out that i was wrong with (12,5 cm * 12,5 cm),
maybe they changed something in their rules.[[BR]]

It seams to me the cheapest way to send one Freemedia DVD is to send it as a standart letter.[[BR]]
That means:[[BR]]
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national (Germany): 0,60 €[[BR]]
international: 0,75 €[[BR]]
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For the international we need the priotity label. [https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/attachment/ticket/218/priorityaufkleber.pdf][[BR]]
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If I would use the current edition (13,5 cm x 13,5 cm):[[BR]]
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national (Germany): 1,45 €[[BR]]
international: 3,45 €[[BR]]
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So better if we do a new one :), with the following sizes:[[BR]]
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L: 14 cm - 23,5 cm[[BR]]
B: 9 cm - 12,5 cm[[BR]]
H: bis 0,5 cm[[BR]]
The length must be at least 1.4 times the width.[[BR]]
Make sure that the DVD still fits in :).[[BR]]
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Thanks,[[BR]]
ib54003

That was very informative. The attachments appear to contain all the information I need (but in German). I will compare the contents with the rules in the old one (using google translate). Stay tuned

Replying to [comment:11 twohot]:

That was very informative. The attachments appear to contain all the information I need (but in German). I will compare the contents with the rules in the old one (using google translate). Stay tuned
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Any news ?

news?

Replying to [comment:11 twohot]:

That was very informative. The attachments appear to contain all the information I need (but in German). I will compare the contents with the rules in the old one (using google translate). Stay tuned

Yes

If we want this design to produce a sort of DIY envelop/mailer, then it won't fit into an A4/letter paper. With the initial design, the front and back sides of the mailer emerge on one A4 print. The rest is cutting and folding.

Would you be satisfied with an adaptation of the above for an A3 paper instead? That would work

'''Other Alternatives:'''[[BR]]
(1) Create a design with the assumption that the sender is ready to cut a custom paper size that is the equivalent of two A4 papers with the width being same as an A4 and length being twice that of an A4. A legal paper size wouldn't fit
(2) Create a design with the assumption that the sender is buying a ready-made plain envelope of 12.5 x 23.5cm dimension. In which case, the sender intends to print the design unto the purchased envelop.

Which is it going to be?

@ib54003 can you please provide for twohot the answer, so that he can finish his work?

Replying to [comment:14 twohot]:

Hey twohot,

Would you be satisfied with an adaptation of the above for an A3 paper instead? That would work

I don't believe an A3 paper design would be the perfect solution, also most of us do not have an A3 printer ;).

(2) Create a design with the assumption that the sender is buying a ready-made plain envelope of 12.5 x 23.5cm dimension. In which case, the sender intends to print the design unto the purchased envelop.

Yes, that might be the best! ;)

I just emailed twohot to see what his status on this is.

proposed mailer showing post office envelop restrictions
Freemedia-mailer-europe-postage-guides.png

proposed mailer showing the front (English)
Freemedia-mailer-europe-front.png

proposed mailer showing the rear side (English) -- option-A
Freemedia-mailer-europe-rear-A.png

proposed mailer showing the rear side (English) -- option-B
Freemedia-mailer-europe-rear-B.png

proposed mailer source design file (have fun!)
Freemedia-mailer-europe.svg

Okay, it finally arrives. I had to make assumptions to move forward as I couldn't lay hands on the most likely envelope for the mailer. I present a proposed mailer with the following assumptions:

  1. The envelop orientation is in landscape and the cover flap is on the longer side
  2. Seams at the rear side overlap by 1cm (10mm) at most.
  3. There is no seam at the middle (rear side) and if there is, it doesn't obstruct printing

Adjustments can be made but I need to know my options (envelope samples).
Reactions please?

NOTE: In the attached source file (SVG), the art is organized in layers. Disable/enable the layers as necessary. Enjoy!

ib54003, ankursinha - any feedback for twohot on his work? (i think it looks great!!)

Replying to [comment:19 twohot]:

Okay, it finally arrives. I had to make assumptions to move forward as I couldn't lay hands on the most likely envelope for the mailer. I present a proposed mailer with the following assumptions:

  1. The envelop orientation is in landscape and the cover flap is on the longer side
  2. Seams at the rear side overlap by 1cm (10mm) at most.
  3. There is no seam at the middle (rear side) and if there is, it doesn't obstruct printing

Adjustments can be made but I need to know my options (envelope samples).
Reactions please?

NOTE: In the attached source file (SVG), the art is organized in layers. Disable/enable the layers as necessary. Enjoy!

Hey twohot,

great work thats what i wanted thanks ;) , i will talk to FranciscoD to publish it with his tool.
I will try to send some freemedia with the new design soon and see if it fits.

ib54003

Replying to [comment:21 ib54003]:

Replying to [comment:19 twohot]:

Okay, it finally arrives. I had to make assumptions to move forward as I couldn't lay hands on the most likely envelope for the mailer. I present a proposed mailer with the following assumptions:

  1. The envelop orientation is in landscape and the cover flap is on the longer side
  2. Seams at the rear side overlap by 1cm (10mm) at most.
  3. There is no seam at the middle (rear side) and if there is, it doesn't obstruct printing

Adjustments can be made but I need to know my options (envelope samples).
Reactions please?

NOTE: In the attached source file (SVG), the art is organized in layers. Disable/enable the layers as necessary. Enjoy!

Hey twohot,

great work thats what i wanted thanks ;) , i will talk to FranciscoD to publish it with his tool.
I will try to send some freemedia with the new design soon and see if it fits.

ib54003

Ok so i already talked to FranciscoD and he also thinks it would be better if we try it before we publish it, so i will try to send some freemedia next week and give u a feedback. Maybe the tool needs a rewrite also... ;)

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