#438 Swag for Brazil / Paraguay.
Closed: Closed 2 years ago Opened 3 years ago by itamarjp.

I am filling this ticket to ask $300 to produce some stickers to Brazil / Paraguay.

Brian will produce it and deliver to us.

for $300 I am expecting to receive 3000~ stickers (different models, something like 3-4 kilos of stickers )


Metadata Update from @itamarjp:
- Issue tagged with: Meeting

3 years ago

Metadata Update from @athoscr:
- Issue untagged with: Meeting
- Issue tagged with: Approved

3 years ago

I have received @itamarjp's shipping address. However, I don't know what stickers are actually wanted. Please update this ticket with that information. Once that information is available, please assign the ticket to me.

If this is not already in the latam budget, it needs to be added now that it is approved.

Brian, please send me a Lucky / Surprise box, as long you don't send me 3k of the same stickers it's ok.

I don't have a preference, If you need me to tell you then please grab something from

https://pagure.io/design/issue/563

thank you.

Metadata Update from @itamarjp:
- Issue assigned to bex

3 years ago

@itamarjp we are done here? Can we close it?

@itamarjp we are done here? Can we close it?
after shipped please close it,

It was approved right ?

I can't tell if this was approved or not. I also need to know what to ship. This is a rough inventory of LATAM swag:

2.25" Round Portugese 1000
2.25" Round Spanish Liberitad Button 1750
Pens 1950
2.25" Round Fedora LATAM 2785
Blue LATAM 1" Round Buttons 2900
LATAM Lanyards 3850
4"x4" Latin America Sticker Sheets 4900

This ticket is already aproved in 2017, Itamar was asking for aditional swag for brazil.

So I think we can update this ticket to a request for aditional swag to a request of swag shipping, sound OK @itamarjp

If so, please tell us have event are you planning to get 3000 stickers since there is 4,900 for al latam, can you please update your request?

Itamar Peixoto
1636 NW 82nd Avenue
Suite CB58970
DORAL, FL 33126-1050
United States

for the events, we have

flisol ( it won't arrive ontime)
http://fisl18.softwarelivre.org
http://latinoware.org
release parties

I prefer to let's up to you the quantities, if you ship low quantities we probably have to ask more soon.

if we have some stuff on hand the people will get's motivated to organize more, otherwise we have to do the same as the Panamenians did , stop requesting swags and request funding for pizza / coke ( congrats to all of them because they are smart enough to know that these stuff won't arrive on time for Flisol)

If we allow for longer lead times we can easily ship things in time for events. We can also ship directly to countries and not through transhippers as desired.

I can't ship until I know what to ship.

Swag on hand should not be the only motivator for events. That seems to indicate that we don't do any planning in advance which makes me worried we don't have an actual plan.

this ticket was filled 5 months ago, not equals to flisol last minutes ticket that you have shipped first than this one, I am doing my best asking in advance and avoiding urgent ticket's

events are there ->

flisol ( it won't arrive ontime) ( this month)
http://fisl18.softwarelivre.org ( next 3 months)
http://latinoware.org ( next 6 months)
release parties

fisl = 3000+ attendes, latinoware 4000+, we generally only give stickers to people who has a fas account, Fedora installed, or answer a question about Fedora (avoiding people hunting for free stickers)

about shipping directly to Brazil I can't accept that offer, in clear words the Brazilian government steals their own people (charging 100% in import duties is stealing), I am a libertarian.

I am founder one of the most important group about import duties on Brazil, we teach people to sue the government when they charge illegal import duties (https://goo.gl/GH37sb), using the government against the government

about quantities I saw on ticket #454 that you have shipped 2.3 KG of items (5 lbs) to Santiago-Chile, I think you have shipped more items than he asked for.

Can you ship me 5 kg (10 lbs) of mixed items (2x more than Santiago-Chile) as a start ?

this ticket was filled 5 months ago, not equals to flisol last minutes ticket that you have shipped first than this one, I am doing my best asking in advance and avoiding urgent ticket's
events are there ->

flisol ( it won't arrive ontime) ( this month)
http://fisl18.softwarelivre.org ( next 3 months)
http://latinoware.org ( next 6 months)
release parties

Unlike other tickets, I haven't seen approvals in this one. Perhaps we can get some approval notes here?

fisl = 3000+ attendes, latinoware 4000+, we generally only give stickers to people who has a fas account, Fedora installed, or answer a question about Fedora (avoiding people hunting for free stickers)

If we only give stickers to people who have FAS Accounts we shouldn't need 7000 stickers for these events. In some areas we have a general rule htat swag is needed for only about 10% of the attendees because it isn't possible to talk to everyone. What is the standard in Brazil?

about shipping directly to Brazil I can't accept that offer, in clear words the Brazilian government steals their own people (charging 100% in import duties is stealing), I am a libertarian.

I understand your concerns, however the project is potentially willing to pay the import duties. That said, you seem to be both asking for items to be shipped and then saying you will receive to accept the packages. This is confusing.

about quantities I saw on ticket #454 that you have shipped 2.3 KG of items (5 lbs) to Santiago-Chile, I think you have shipped more items than he asked for.

I do not pack the items personally. If we discover excess quantities were shipped, I will address it with the shippers. This way may also not be exact. Shipping contracts in the US often allow for a "dummy" weight to be entered into the system and the shipper trues it up when the package is actually received. This allows for faster transit processing.

Can you ship me 5 kg (10 lbs) of mixed items (2x more than Santiago-Chile) as a start ?

I am not going to make decisions about what gets shipped and to whom. I am looking to the LATAM group to approve the shipping of specific items. This request is even harder as I do not do the packing and must specify the exact items that should be shipped.

I'd appreciate your help in identifying exactly how many of which items are needed to help which events in Brazil be successful.

@itamarjp please put the specific needs of swag (items and quantities) and we can vote to approve this in 1 day (or less).

Can you ship me 5 kg (10 lbs) of mixed items (2x more than Santiago-Chile) as a start ?

This doesn't represent an amount of SWAG. The inventory of what's left is this:

2.25" Round Portugese 1000
2.25" Round Spanish Liberitad Button 1750
Pens 1950
2.25" Round Fedora LATAM 2785
Blue LATAM 1" Round Buttons 2900
LATAM Lanyards 3850
4"x4" Latin America Sticker Sheets 4900

For me, e.g. it makes sense that you request all the Portuguese Swag. For everything else, it's really needed the exact amount of each item you want.

After you complete the information, please ping everyone on IRC or Telegram to quick vote and approve this ticket.

I am suggesting these numbers to start,

500 x 2.25" Round Portuguese Libertad Button
250 x 2.25" Round Spanish Libertad Button
250 x 2.25" Round Fedora LATAM
500 x Blue LATAM 1" Smalls Buttons
1000 x 4"x4" Latin America Sticker Sheets
300 x Lanyards
200 x pens

Metadata Update from @bex:
- Assignee reset

2 years ago

Dropping ownership until this is approved. @itamarjp I suggest we consider direct shipping to Brazil so that we can have any import duties, ideally, paid via the shipping company and charged back to avoid reimbursement issues.

@itamarjp as this looks to be moving to approved, can you please consider my suggestion about direct shipping and respond here?

@itamarjp as this looks to be moving to approved, can you please consider my suggestion about direct shipping and respond here?

I am copying and pasting what the people said in other ticket

"we do not have a good experience with post service in Nicaragua, this is the reason to ask to receive the swag with a courier service in Miami that will send the swag to Nicaragua and take care of taxes."

Metadata Update from @itamarjp:
- Issue close_status updated to: Closed
- Issue status updated to: Closed (was: Open)

2 years ago

@itamarjp that makes sense about shipping. Thanks for sharing it.

Since you've closed this ticket, does this mean you no longer need this swag?

Since you've closed this ticket, does this mean you no longer need this swag?

what I am asking is very simple - SEND ME SOME STICKERS

I have been waiting for 5+ months.

I already PROVIDED the address on this ticket.

please STOP asking me USELESS QUESTIONS ABOUT colors, sizes, quantities. I don't care if it's in english, spanish, if it's ansible, ovirt, ceph etc...

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