#434 Peru Rumbo al GSoC 2018
Closed 6 years ago Opened 6 years ago by yulytas.

Hello guys,
I came up with an idea to involve more students to the Linux world and made them to participate in the next round of GSoC 2018
Please find more details here: https://lleksah.wordpress.com/2017/11/01/proposal-of-the-program-peru-rumbo-al-gsoc-2018/
Hope all of you support this idea.
Julita


It's nice to see how you are always pushing Free Software forward there :) Congratulations!!!

Is this a request for something already? If not, maybe this should be an email in our list, not an issue in pagure!

edit: if this is a request (I see you already have an event in a week or two), can you prepare the wiki page for the event with values?

Yes dear Athos
$200 for our meals for two months
I do not know if those $200 can be enough to feed 4 trainers and 12
students but it is a small quantity considering $5 per person
I do not know if that amount can be send before
or Bex pay online for our food during our sessions
because reimbursement for each one, will be a disaster xd
hmmmm

On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 10:21 AM, Athos Ribeiro pagure@pagure.io wrote:

athoscr added a new comment to an issue you are following:
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It's nice to see how you are always pushing Free Software forward there :)
Congratulations!!!

Is this a request for something already? If not, maybe this should be an
email in our list, not an issue in pagure!
``

To reply, visit the link below or just reply to this email
https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/434

@yulytas the best option for paying for the meals, if you are going to have it funded, would be to have one person pay for everyone so we send one reimbursement.

I also suspect that if you want to have this funded you are going to need to follow the LATAM funding procedures. I believe that means that you cannot post the request on your event report, but instead need to put details in the wiki/ticket system.

thanks @bex for the support this time.
Can I understand that the reimbursement can be done weekly after having the bill for the 14 people?
Because having a reimbursement for each 14 person can be a little difficult :)
I am creating a wiki where you can see the agenda for each session.

thanks @bex for the support this time.
Can I understand that the reimbursement can be done weekly after having the bill for the 14 people?
Because having a reimbursement for each 14 person can be a little difficult :)
I am creating a wiki where you can see the agenda for each session.

@yulytas and I discussed this. If this ticket is approved, I am ok with weekly reimbursements with the following two conditions:

1) If I am making the reimbursements, you will be subject to when I have time to process the reimbursement - I am not promissing it will be at the same time each week - and if you give me stuff that requires more work on my end that slows me down. If this gets approved we can work it out so it is easy on my side.
Brian
2) If Neville is doing it, he has to agree - right now his card is down - so this isn't an issue

Hi @yulytas

We are talking about 3 different sessions, right? Is it ok for you if you only get reimbursed in the end of the 3 sessions? If not, then it would be nice to split your budget in 3 different parts (you can do that in the same wiki) to make it easier for us to see and evaluate your budget request. Consider @bex commets about reimbursement before proceeding.

Answering the question you asked me in private: no, this ticket was not approved yet. You need to add a meeting tag to it so it can be discussed in a meeting (I am doing it for you now). So expect an answer by Friday 15:30 UTC

I know that organizing the wiki page with all the information may get annoying sometimes, but that's what you are required to do when requesting reimbursements from the project. Do emphasize the section with values you are requesting and how they are going to be spent so they are very clear for us.

Metadata Update from @athoscr:
- Issue tagged with: Meeting

6 years ago

In case I will miss the meeting on friday my vote is +1.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PeruRumboGSoC2018

@yulytas

  1. There will be 12 students in the course, if they are aproved in GSoC there will apply for a project with Fedora or Gnome? (This is fine since Gnome is the base of the Fedora WorkStation), if they are not aproved for GSoC the will be enrolled in Gnome or Fedora in anyway?

We are considering C and Javascript o participate with Fedora in the GSoC

  1. Can we remove C since a lot in Fedora are python based? It is a big theme and I think will be a better idea to improve python over C

  2. Did you read @bex comments about reimbursement.

I like the idea of this course, is similar to the "Escuela Fedora" in 2012

Hello @williamjmorenor

I have talked about this idea with Mathew Miller and @bex to know what languages can be included for this first stage of the program, and it was mentioned mainly C and Javascript. I asked them first because they were mentors on previous rounds of GSoC.

We are not restricting only 12 people, we invited anyone with the willing of learning Linux and Programming. Please read this post.
https://lleksah.wordpress.com/2017/11/11/exam-results-and-pass-list-perurumbogsoc2018/

What we meant of 12 students and 2 trainer per Sunday is that we are going to help top 12 students with food since are journeys are going to last more than 8 hours. Also the volunteer work of the trainers and their effort, is at least paying with food.
This is not our first program. We did another in the past, promoting Fedora with no financial support of Fedora LATAM. We spend three months in trying to figure out how to manage the group and see how is the best way to teach somebody Programming Linux every Sunday. We paid our foods, materials, bus and taxis in order to teach students from different universities Linux. In Lima universities is not Linux something that is teaching in regular courses.

The students we selected, have at least intermediate knowledge of Linux and Programming, so we can do a review faster and do more things. It is obvious that 6 sessions are not enough to teach someone to program on Linux.

I agreed that Bex reimbursement alternative, I can pay for the three sessions for 14 ppl and then, at the end he can do the total reimbursement only once with transferwise in soles, when I have completed the three sessions sponsored by Fedora.

According with the bases of the GSoC, a student can be choosen if they proved knowledge of programming on Linux and also depends of the contribution they have in Fedora or GNOME.

I have to say this again... this is the first step, then we are going to follow with instructions to participate in Fedora projects at the begining of the next year, to be readys on April.

P.S. It is not Gnome, It is GNOME that stands for "GNU Network Object Model Environment".
Those details are also contemplate in our local training, we need to know in order to love what we do.

Thanks,
Julita

Hi team and hi @yulytas,

I think this proposal is amazing, kudos to you for this initiative.

Now, concerning to this ticket:

  1. We have a guideline (Spanish Version). We told you this several times, and you always get mad because your tickets aren't approved in the first session. Right now, you are doing the things really good, the only require from my side according this ticket is to correctly place the wiki page in the structure for Latam Events.
  2. According to our process, the wiki page should be created BEFORE the ticket, and the link should be in the ticket. You had created the wiki page 5 days AFTER the ticket was sent. In the future, please remember to do the wiki before.
  3. Also, take into account the wiki format is different that blog format, that's why the image is moved and the links are not in place (but this is a super minor comment).

Now, concerning the discussion here, and where I really have problems with this ticket:

  • This kind of comments:

    This is not our first program. We did another in the past, promoting Fedora with no financial support of Fedora LATAM.

Make people care less about your tickets. I know it feels like a great accomplishment, and it is, but a lot of us work, not only for Fedora, but for FLOSS and the Open Source Movement just because we believe, you are not the only want. If you want to have the empathy of the rest of the contributors, ambassadors or any other, try to be more humble.

  • This kind of comments:

    It is not Gnome, It is GNOME that stands for "GNU Network Object Model Environment".

Move the discussion away of the objective and that makes that your ticket lost track. A ticket is not the place to discuss that kind of stuff.

You are on the right track to make better tickets, and we really appreciate your efforts, but we can always be better.

Thanks for improving this and good luck.

Once you move your wiki page to the right place in the wiki, I'm +1.

Metadata Update from @athoscr:
- Issue untagged with: Meeting
- Issue tagged with: Approved

6 years ago

325 PEN reimbursed via Transferwise.

@athoscr @yn1v this never got entered into the budget as far as I can tell, I've added a line (posting soon) which you all should review.

@athoscr @yn1v this never got entered into the budget as far as I can tell, I've added a line (posting soon) which you all should review.

I haven't follow budget in several months (since the credit card expired). I think @potty will know more about this.

Thanks @bex the reimbursement have been done successfully.

Could you please close this ticket?

Best,

Julita

Metadata Update from @yulytas:
- Issue status updated to: Closed (was: Open)

6 years ago

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